Non Rock Music Immersion Challenge

I'm not intersted in ALL non rock music, but more so in stuff like the stuff I listed.

PS - INDIE GUILT.

What you want is some great country music.

(he's also released some stuff under the name Cujo, btw)

I've been meaning to get stuff by: Squarepusher, [mu]-ziq, Venetian Snares, Air

(I just got the "Will the Circle Remain Unbroken" thing, but have not listened to it.)

Third Eye Foundation - Ghost, You Guys Kill Me or Little Lost Soul (all three are great.)

Miles Davis - Bitches Brew

Autechre - Tri Repetae (2 CD set w/Garbage & Anvil Vapre eps, if you can find it.)

Paul Schutze- New Maps of Hell

I also liked that second Replikants record (super reccomendation; this album is totally overlooked!) and all the later Boredoms stuff.

Cross-post: too late. Well, I think gamelan could have a lot of appeal to rock/electronic music fans anyway.

Also, didn't I mention having DJ Picax3 stuff?

The penguin is the Linux penguin. :D
http://while1.net/~xm/misc/me/kissp.jpg

Also here is my obsessive album list:
http://while1.net/~xm/albums.html

Pretty much why I suggested it. If you're an Aphex/Shadow fan, at the least, there's no reason not to check it out.

What other Shadow / UNKLE stuff is worth getting. All I have is Preemptive Strike? I really like the stuff based around the organs (High Noon, Organ Donor, etc.). I've done a bit of this kinda thing myself. :D

(If you need another opinion, check Ned's reviews of these Autechre releases at Allmusic.)

On the electronic music tip, I'm still enjoying Astrobotnia a lot. I think I have vol. 2, it's really grown on me.

Also, I can never recommend Telefon Tel Aviv enough, it's the perfect mix of hot beats and gorgeous melodies.

Er, have you heard them? It's not jam-bandy or whatever at all. They're all fantastic musicians...Dave Douglas is a star now, Greg Cohen played for Tom Waits, Joey Baron's played for everyone (inc. Bowie). I don't think they could come from a more 'authentic' place for the music.

Or did you just mean that Masada is too close to 'rock'?

yes.

Also, Daft Punk! I'll probably be able to find some in the used bin.

"dance-friendly" --> "Circus Bells (Hardfloor Remix)" by Robert Armani, listen to it on headphones, if that don't knock your sox off, forget the whole experiment

I couldn't give a cannonical example of House, for example.

Any of the following are brilliant:

1998 Not for Threes Nothing
1999 Rest Proof Clockwork Warp
2001 Double Figure Warp
2000 Trainer Warp
2003 Parts in the Post

Sort of as complex as Autechre, but in a totally accessible way so you don't even notice it.

I could recommend others, but really I just want you to hear Plaid.

Soulwax
DJ Shadow
gamelan / indonesian
Amon Tobin
Venetian Snares
Squarepusher
u-ziq
air
unkle
"Secret museum of mankind" compilations (indigenous)
Karsh Kale
V/A - Shock City Shockers
dj rap
Tabla Beat Science
daft punk
avalanches
plaid

Wait a minute Jon are you sure you're not French??

if you have broadband i recommend downloading surgeon live at tresor in 98,the mix that got me into techno,and still the best thing i've ever heard within the genre

Triple R, Friends (Kompakt)
The Avalanches, Since I Left You (Mute)
The Kings and Queens of Township Jive: Modern Roots of the Indestructible Beat of Soweto (Earthworks)
De La Soul, Timeless: The Singles Collection (Tommy Boy/Rhino)
The Guitar and Gun (Stern's/Earthworks)
Fela, Confusion/Gentlemen (MCA)
Augustus Pablo, King Tubby's Meets Rockers Uptown (Clocktower)
Oliver Nelson, The Blues and the Abstract Truth (Impulse!)
Mama Don't Allow No Easy Riders Here (Yazoo)
Hillbilly Boogie (Proper UK 4cd box)

So do I. All of them in fact!

Most of those acts aren't French, and it's striking how few are from the US.

Squarepusher is not a wuss, and Venetian Snares played nearly an hour of rapid/rabid digital noise and at 3.00am on a Monday morning to finish off this year's UK ATP, doing this to his audience in the process:

http://www.meirion.lewis.btinternet.co.uk/atp/snaresfans.jpg

Definitely get some Plaid. They're about as different from Slayer as it's possible to get.

If you want some non-wuss electronics you've heard Prodigy obviously, but try DJ Speedranch (not really, the one CD I have is literally just noise) or Speedy J who is more monotonously mind destroying than any metal/grind I've ever hear - in a good way.

Some of Aphex' driss and bass is pretty harsh too.

susuma yokota - sakura
global communication - 76:14
future sound of london - lifeforms
biosphere - substrata

for something less chin-strokey...

basement jaxx - rooty
leftfield - leftism
orbital - orbital (brown)

various other things...

mu-ziq - royal astronomy
prefuse 73 - one word extinguisher
underworld - dubnobasswithmyheadman

i'll second any ayes for plaid, autechre, third eye foundation ("double figure", "incunabula" and "you guys kill me" respectively, are the ones to get)

That's okay, I too have a pet peeve against French dance. I like Daft Punk's first album a lot, their second makes me want to floss very thoroughly most of the time and I don't like any other French stuff at all.

To me Plaid sound like giant plastic robots and bubbles of neon through clear glass tubes and not at all French. Their music is quite complicated, which a lot of galoise (sp) smoking French pap isn't, but that's not immediately obvious.

I advise _everyone_ to steer well clear of International Pony.

Air - Moon Safari
Amon Tobin - Super Modified
Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do
Avalanches - Since I Left You
Cex - Being Ridden Instrumentals
DJ Shadow - Diminishing Returns
Kraftwerk - Computer World
Ladyton - 604
Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
u-Ziq - Lunatic Harness
Java / Court Gamelan - Vol. 1

I'll post how I feel about some of this schtuff.

(Why do so many of these begin with A?)

Giorgio Moroder-"From here to eternity"
Dizzee Rascal-"Boy in da corner"
Kid Loco-"A grand love story"
Casino vs Japan-"Whole numbers play the basics"

For world music try
Salif Keta
Cheb Mambi

I'm starting to go nuts to hear Lightning Bolt or the Stooges. Eeesh. Everything is too mellow??

I don't die for ATR much... I listened to them during my big KMFDM kick like 5 years back.

Also, is there any electronic music that apes krautrock?

(I'm programming and I like stuff that keeps me awake and well paced.)

Mouse on Mars, Iaora Tahiti is a perfect update of the sound of mid 70s Kraftwerk and Cluster (though if you're wanting energetic in a Squarepusher or mu-Ziq way, this isn't like that)

Also, what's Broadcast like?

Also, what Ninja Tune stuff is cool?

(I am fixated on Lightning Bolt and the Stooges.)

'Automatic Writing' - Robert Ashley

'I Am Sitting in a Room' - Alvin Lucier

'Early Works' - Steve Reich

all = osmotic tongue blippage
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Are you sure you're not French??

Vous n'etes vraiment pas allemand?

(Actually, I ask myself the same thing every time I look at the bravewussy section of my collection. It all seemed so forward-looking at the time! Ah, futurism: always dated in hindsight, hahaha g'night folks)

It is all good stuff, a lot of it's just painted in very similar shades. You can easily burn out on it if you're not mixing it up with more visceral or rocking or whatever-you-wanna-call-it stuff ...

PS Mei, which is your fave?

1998 Not for Threes Nothing
1999 Rest Proof Clockwork Warp
2001 Double Figure Warp
2000 Trainer Warp
2003 Parts in the Post

Don't 4get wimmin in electronic music! eg:
Neotropic - Mr. Brubaker's Strawberry Alarm Clock (I might've gotten the title wrong)
Andrea Parker - DJ Kicks (some great electro mixes)
Mira Calix - Prickle EP or Skimskitta (former is lush, melds ambient and IDM-proper in a rare way)

And finally autechre. I always suggest starting from Incunabula and progress chronologically, since one could fairly say that they get harder to listen to w/ each alb. Their EPs are almost all pure gold though, Garbage being stunning. The Anti EP gets underrepresented by everyone -- it's the most Orbital-ish of their EPs (though in some ways predates certain aspects of the Orbital sound). THeir PEel Sessions = gold too; "Milk DX" = ae with scratching! I'm getting a lot into Envane lately. Cichli Suite is brill. DON'T get Basscad EP. Also, get Gescom's (Autechre's umbrella project, sometimes they actually are Gescom, usu. not) Keynell EP.

FAILURE.