the lakers have just pooped their big-boy pants: 2012-2013 NBA regular season thread (part 2)

:-(

i'll undercut this juvenile thread title with a serious column that i think is pretty good

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/12/4/3727426/lakers-dwight-howard-problem

my bold preseason prediction that the blazers would finish ahead of the kings remains on track. i am satisfied by this.

im fully on board with the pelicans but new orleans BRASS would have been very cool also

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lakers-reaction-kobe.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mejca5F24n1rn2cy5o1_500.jpg

the lakers have just popped their big-boy pants

pooped champagne like we won a championship game

Wow thought all that Pelican talk was off of some tangent above my bookmark.

I heard the lakers may have pooped their big-boy pants, can anyone confirm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwEOigT2GWM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdq1pcbFXN1qgyos6o1_400.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meh2v1jxfZ1rk0uv7o3_250.gif

Tonight is San Antonio's first game since the Halloween photos came out, and no word of punishment from the league. I expected something before now, because any investigation shouldn't take more than a few phone calls to complete.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdq1pcbFXN1qgyos6o1_400.gif

lock 2012

I hope that's one of his indochine suits

kobe is... the pau whisperer

Brooklyn Nets forward Gerald Wallace has been fined $5,000 by the NBA for flopping, joining teammate Reggie Evans as the only repeat offenders under the league's new penalty system.
The league also gave Clippers veteran Chauncey Billups a warning Wednesday for falling backward after launching a jumper against Utah with little or no contact.

floppers should be forced to wear a IM A FLOPPER cardboard sign outside the stadium before their next game

Q: "what's your favorite type of food?"

Nikola Pekovic: "It's meat. Different types of meat. Basically, I like meat."

Pekovic otm

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 When you find a random stream that for some reason keeps the video / mics live during timeouts and you can listen to the announcers talking back and forth about what just happened / what they'll talk about / etc.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdq1pcbFXN1qgyos6o1_400.gif

― am0n, Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:53 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

well at least someone is enjoying lakers games this year

dying @ pau whisperer

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 When you find a random stream that for some reason keeps the video / mics live during timeouts and you can listen to the announcers talking back and forth about what just happened / what they'll talk about / etc.

― New Orleans Fighting Tunechi (CompuPost), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 7:56 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its the al jazeera feeds always w/this so rad

Right now it was just Austin Croshere asking if he looked OK because his shirt is missing a button.

lol

and then at halftime they play soccer highlight reels

ok now the nuggets are starting Mozgov, wtf

Other times someone like Quinn Buckner will just be reading strings of digits out loud, which sounds almost like a shortwave radio number station.

croshere always sort of reminded me of jim carrey

all 7 games currently playing are w/in 3 points

KEVIN DING ‏@KevinDing
Now in the timeout huddle, Dwight is standing up and pointing a finger in the face of the seated Kobe.

dwight. do. not.

mamba will end you

XD

hey guys i'm dumb with this stuff but how do you guys watch live games on the computer?

i usually just google 'nba streaming'

this one has some p chill links http://nbaliveonline.tv/streaming

This is my go-to for basically all sports: http://www.thefirstrow.eu/

lagoon - that link worked! thank u!

i couldn't get firstrow to work, some weird plugin or something iLivid couldn't get it to work

u welcome

Hahahaha no, that's just a spammy ad-- you have to wait like ten seconds, then a "close" thing will pop up, then you close it, then you're done. Feel like I have a good feel for rando streaming sports sites and their ad structures. Chrome/AdBlock also means that I have no idea what most other people see when they go to those sites.

whenever fat Boris is makin reverse layups I treat it as a good omen for the rest of the game, I wonder if hollinger has a stat for that

bucks frontcourt is p abysmal afaict

John Hollinger ‏@johnhollinger
Saw another Nugget in there eating media meal but I must have missed Dre.

John Hollinger ‏@johnhollinger
Man, Andre Miller does NOT look good tonight.

weird the celtics announcers is more like "two way old guys just chatting about stuff"

this is whats known as the boston sports announcing style, check out a red sox game if you ever want to hear it in full effect

JR smith is insane

two on one break with 10 seconds left and the game tied and he floats out to the three point line!

man so many close losses for the bobcats

netw3rk ‏@netw3rk
JR, *shakes him by the shoulders* WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF FUCKING PCP ARE YOU ON!?

@KevinDing
Dwight yelled at Kobe for not rotating to Lopez. Kobe yelled back at Dwight, pointing toward the other end of the court.

Now in the timeout huddle, Dwight is standing up and pointing a finger in the face of the seated Kobe.

lol @ bobcats committing a five second violation after a timeout

when kobe retires, what number goes up in the rafters of staples center?

"neither, because Kobe will be charged with murdering and eating Dwight Howard in the next few months"

amirite

feel like theyll still prob retire his number tho

lmao at Kobe rollin up in Hannibal lecter gear at jersey retirement ceremony

I just want to say I AM STILL PICKING DWIGHT HOWARD'S INNARDS OUT OF MY TEETH, DO U DARE CROSS MAMBA

thats our mamba *shrug*

Rondo just took Shved behind the shed.

lmao kobe giving himself that nickname is def the best decision hes ever made, i still cant believe it

omg I have tolls overlooked a number retirement possibility
Lou bega revival tie-in, mamba no. 5

totally, not tolls

I can see Kobe asking they retire his name to the rafters. "I don't care about number 8 or 24, I want you to never have another player with 'Bryant' across the back of his jersey. And two statues out front, one young Kobe and one for the Mamba."

q: do u think Kobe identifies as an otherkin

lol @ "the seated kobe"

haha kobels would absolutely 100% go for two statues

its the al jazeera feeds always w/this so rad

― lag∞n, Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:13 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mzfKojOm4c

baby fro and the mamba, holding hands, dunking on shaq

he'd have some faux chummy "hey, five rings, two statues, you guys are the math wizards but I think that's at least two per statue" with the press at the conference

then he would retire to his fortress and continue his eternal torment of dwight for failing him in his quest to tie jordan

mamba out.

Does Staples have a rear entrance? Cuz, you know, the Mamba would totally be there.

zing!

it totally does btw

i think they're planning to put kareem's statue there because everyone hates him

rly feel like y'all are thinking too small with the whole statue thing
I mean rly, Kobe clones in perpetuity is the only homage fitting mamba, just an endless array of baby frobes, 81 pt ballhog extremism Kobe, pau tolerating Kobe, pau hating Kobe Dwight eating Kobe, come out of retirement to play for the pelicans Kobe u know

like don't insult the man with a static image

They should be dicks and make Kareem sky-hooking toward Mecca.

Or Milwaukee.

staples center shd be a mosque

guys what if steve nash totally engineered this whole thing because he's ready to retire but cashing twenty mil in lakers checks while watching them crash and burn while wearing a sweet suit on the sidelines was just impossible to resist, plus he got his man mike d a job after he had some hard times...think about it

nash walks out of the police station without a limp. meanwhile jimmy buss sees "howard shipping co" pinned to his corkboard and "gasol porcelain" at the bottom of his coffee cup

support grifter Nash theory

matt, i still stick with atdhenet.tv for streaming. way less ads than anything else i've seen.

im a firstrow user too

duncan is playing so high level. love it. thought he would never recover from that thing in his foot. tendinitis ?

ya he's an utter joy to watch in the post this year
I hope he has some win one for the gipper moment that leads to spurs murking the heat in the finals, I know I'm stupid to dream but this is the world I want my son to live in

biedrins made a free throw tonight

man tiago is playing w so much more confidence than last year

nothing fills me with more self loathing than a pan of hooting spurs fans in the lower bowl

so many pinche 30 and 40something gabachos in polos feeling way too good about the accomplishments of others

faried just saves ALL BALLS

this de colo-g neal-James anderson-bonner-tiago line up is cooking right now

i want to live in a world where kenneth suddenly learns defense

law-son.....

lawson has wbrook-type lapses

Josh Smith turned 27 today...

Just started the Nugs/Hawks game and had to ffwd all the way to the end cos I cant listen to John Barry for more than 2 minutes.

guys how do former ballers get selected for tv duty? it feels incredibly random, like u put a box of 90s upper deck (collectors choice, no sense in running nice trading cards) into a bucket and draw

oh I got god shammgod guess he's doing TNT coverage with cuttino mobley

idk, been wondering this too. i guess backstage talks during their careers, players that like to talk a lot (jalen rose comes to my mind)

parker / de colo / manu !!!

melo hurt his finger tonight, might sit vs the heat tomorrow night

btw mavs & suns are the late tnt game tomorrow night so everyone make plans

pop just seated duncan in the final quarter. not a word...

vucevic vs enes going on alert

Blake just got v v high

melo hurt his finger tonight, might sit vs the heat tomorrow night

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:53 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sit them ALL

maybe this is a new thing, bench yr stars vs heat, don't give them the satisfaction

Unless you're the Wizards

every team benches their staters v the heat they end up w/the best regular season record ever entering the playoffs w no idea how good they are having not played a meaningful game all year

game 1 of the playoffs, d wade scratching his head
I DON'T GET IT he thinks I WAS ALWAYS ABLE TO BLOW BY COURTNEY LEE AND SCORE 47 PTS

CBSSports.com polled 35 NBA types, guys who have been out running from tourney to tourney over the first month of the season, on who they would select if picking first. Here's the tally:

Cody Zeller (Indiana): 31 percent
Nerlens Noel (Kentucky): 23 percent
Alex Len (Maryland): 11 percent
Shabazz Muhammad (UCLA): 11 percent
Alex Poythress (Kentucky): 9 percent
Rudy Gobert (France): 6 percent
Tony Mitchell (North Texas): 3 percent
Archie Goodwin (Kentucky): 3 percent
Anthony Bennett (UNLV) - 3 percent

did they really need to use percentages there

Austin Rivers watch: 28.3%

Mickael Pietrus just threw down a nasty dunk and is having an awesome game, believe it or not

Would be a perennial all-star if they widened the court by a foot on all sides.

austin rivers plummet like the dow jones ;]

oh I got god shammgod guess he's doing TNT coverage with cuttino mobley
― shave and a haircut...2 CHAINZ (m bison), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahaha I think God Shammgod was the big high school senior the last time I read Street and Smith.

rly feel like y'all are thinking too small with the whole statue thing
I mean rly, Kobe clones in perpetuity is the only homage fitting mamba, just an endless array of baby frobes, 81 pt ballhog extremism Kobe, pau tolerating Kobe, pau hating Kobe Dwight eating Kobe, come out of retirement to play for the pelicans Kobe u know
― shave and a haircut...2 CHAINZ (m bison), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This + Press Conference Kobe with Vanessa Bryant. Could have a whole series of statues with +1s being bummed out by Kobe (Phil, Shaq, etc.)

Probably not the right time to mention that thus far Kobe is having one of his most efficient shooting season of his career.

Kinda want to 'shop this into a statue right now; basically the moment where the Black Mamba was born I think:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2010/2/19/1266589342397/Kobe-Bryant-seated-next-t-001.jpg

Cuban is dreaming of Dirk's return:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_melignw5va1qzb7vjo1_500.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aHXD1.jpg

early kobe statue

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/856572/thumbs/s-KOBE-DEATH-STARE-GIF-large.jpg

ho lil kobels wearing one of those jordan caricature tees

lil kobels 'n' lil scrub squad

My question is how many of those kids grew up to be his teammates on the 2005-06 Lakers?

Scott didn't offer an explanation regarding the baby dolls before the game, but each player realizes the hazing is just part of the game. Waiters' baby doll, Mary, and Zeller's baby doll, LaQuesha, sat quietly on the side of the Cavs' locker room while Jones' baby doll, Connie, sat in front of his locker.

way 2 show connie some respect

props to the writer who just dropped the dolls names in there casually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagOhD3fUpg

haha wtf

Peep the guy at 0:10 putting his head down smh lmfao.
Luis Medina 18 hours ago

haha, needs to be in the basketlolz thread.

loma what even happened there

was it paranormal

Odom was always an awful finisher

oh god is dallas vs phoenix really tnt's late game tonight, that is sure to be riveting television

I love it when they program TV schedules based on who was good 5 years ago

the way knicks/heat was the worst basketball ever and never went away

kaman vs. dragic

some nice passes from bron

The Phoenix Suns are so confident in what team president Jason Rowley calls their "exciting brand of basketball" that the team is offering fans their money back - regardless of the game's outcome - if they're not completely satisfied with the experience at Thursday night's matchup against the Dallas Mavericks.

that is sad

chandler is 51/62 over the last 9 games O_O

tyson chandler is a guy who understand his strengths and weaknesses

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1843337/allen-wade-james.gif

tyson is the real east all star center

http://deadspin.com/5966336/fuck-you-pelicans-are-awesome-a-defense-of-the-nbas-best-new-team-name

wtf, the knicks

looking forward to both melo and stat coming off the bench

... bron

lebron would like some help in this game

man i thought jr corpse would BREAK in that replay

steve novak/jr smith celebration was v. awkward

novak seemed kinda afraid

wtf novak

Novak >>>>> Bron

jr and novak love each other!

enjoyable

replies to this tweet (https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/276893844577071104) are hilarious

lotta people reading "spirit"

isn't that what he meant

dal-phx is such a garbage late game!

Jason Kidd is shooting 53-51-94 this season

he meant it? i should improve my engrishhhh

nice little -33 from wade tonight

yeesh

knicks were wildin damn, i just watched a min of the 2nd game a and reggie was going on an extended rant abt how kids these days dont know the fundamentals of the game because of youtube, srsly

reggie wants more long 2s

I had to change the channel from that Reggie Miller horseshit

http://deadspin.com/5966336/fuck-you-pelicans-are-awesome-a-defense-of-the-nbas-best-new-team-name

― k3vin k., Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:38 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

ok did Derek Fisher cut a side deal during the lockout negotiations

i'm saying, he's got a loooooooot of dirt on some important people

But he is SOOOOO good in the locker room! And he has that ever so sought after CHAMPIONSHIP EXPERIENCE!

Ricky Rubio is "angling to play" and make his debut on Friday, but the more likely scenario is for Rubio to return on December 15, a source tells Darren Wolfson 1500 ESPN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ruav0KvQOOg

Hurrah! ESPN UK finally sorts out a deal to show NBA games this season. Of course they're mainly on during the middle of the night but dvr and watch later is no problem. Lakers/Thunder here I come.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8719297/how-kobe-bryant-missed-shots-translate-new-nba-statistic-kobe-assist

this is kind of fascinating

Ha, I read that earlier. Made my brain hurt.

a basic takeaway that makes a lot of sense that i'd never thought of before: if you've got 2 players, a guard and a big, who each shoot 45% from midrange, you'd prefer to have the guard take those shots because his misses are more likely to be rebounded by his team

how long b4 full-blown dwight meltdown

Toward the end of shootaround Friday, Los Angeles Lakers guard Steve Nash approached Dwight Howard and offered up a couple of tips on how to shoot free throws.

Though Howard is shooting just 46.9 percent from the foul line this season, while Nash is tied with Mark Price for the best free throw percentage in NBA history at 90.4 percent, the Lakers center said he's had enough of people giving him advice.

"Listen, he was just suggesting some things, but it's not something that we've already talked about or anybody else has suggested," Howard said. "My mind cannot get clouded with everybody telling me how to shoot a free throw. I just have to go up there and shoot it my way and not get caught up in what everybody else is saying, because that's when I miss."

"I just have to go up there and shoot it my way, because that's when I miss."

its true that dwight should prob just have one shooting coach and everyone else should stfu, but also hes always gonna be terrible at free throws

and the things that work for regular sized extremely coordinated human steve nash might not work for hulking man child dwight howard

dwight did fwiw shoot by far his best ft% his rookie season so he might be onto something

u love dwight

he is a superior human in every way

Javale McGee coast to coast finished with a scoop layin

did an inside out crossover at midcourt on George

guys I'm legit sad that Kev is missing this javalerie

6-6, 12 pts in 8 minutes

rondo ballin out, near trip dub at the half

CJ Miles cannot believe that call:

https://o.twimg.com/1/proxy.jpg?t=FQQVBBgpaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0cGljLmNvbS9zaG93L2xhcmdlL2JqemZycC5qcGcUAhYAEgA&s=UibxBBrMtn0G5w5EY7ga6DRJTxljA9XUBJb9P4BAzvU

haws hair my god

Javale is still Javale.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1847089/javale1.gif

Dan (CA)

I just looked at Austin Rivers stats so far this year... GAAAAAAAAHHHHHH NOOOOO. What is going on with him?
John Hollinger (12:27 PM)

My big worries about Rivers were that he didn't have the athleticism to cut it in the NBA as a slasher, and that he wasn't a good enough shooter to make up for it. That seems to be the case so far. But that said, keep in mind that there's a long history in this league of rookie guards getting absolutely slaughtered, before emerging in year 2 as a real basketball player.

Javale goes 9-9 with 20 and 8 but he has one bad turnover so lol look at this gif smh

man you are just insanely sensitive about this guy, it's very weird. it's just a gif!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZCEjRtr5zE

which one to gif hmm

great celtics defense, jeff green finding his niche ..... COME BACK, AVERY!!!

hmm i'd gif the one that doesn't involve dunking over a shitty backup big man

yeah so many guys would have totally blocked that

I remember when Griffin dunked on Mozgov and I was like "wait a minute, is the defender good enough for it to be a gif?"

kobe assist there by jet

The Warriors are pretty fun this year! They're winning even without Bogut.

stephen curry has got like 4 consecutive 20+/10+ games

damn rondo had a pretty good look for the win

matt you're being a huge weirdo! javale will always have a reputation for being a knucklehead, it's okay. he rides segways around denver, i think everyone's cool about it!

the world needs knuckleheads imo

kobe assists are very common

otm and the nba gets the best ones imo
xp re knuckleheads

that javale gif is hilarious

if Javale's successes weren't treated like this:

hmm i'd gif the one that doesn't involve dunking over a shitty backup big man

― call all destroyer, Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:34 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe I'd feel better about the scrutiny applied to every mistake he made. And maybe George Karl wouldn't bench him every time he made one.

christ matt i'm just giving you shit, that's not what i actually think

I mean I watched the whole game and McGee was 9-9 with like 5 dunks, a sick coast to coast layin and the thing that gets gif'd is literally the only mistake he made all game, it's an obnoxious double standard that's applied to this guy

evan turner attempted all 76ers-FG in overtime?

i don't know why you need to think you need to sell him being good, we all know he's good xp

the sixers stopped playing offense about 20 minutes ago but they're still going to win

i don't know why you need to think you need to sell him being good, we all know he's good xp

― call all destroyer, Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:55 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do we?

I would venture to say that most NBA fans think he sucks

londo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxYkI6ht3wA

guys I'm legit sad that Kev is missing this javalerie

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 7, 2012 7:41 PM (2 hours ago)

aw bless you! i'll watch the replay tomorrow

I would venture to say that most NBA fans think he sucks

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 7, 2012 9:57 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"most nba fans" do not post in this thread matt.

also i'm pretty sure george karl doesn't read ilx but my apologies if he does and your messages are getting through.

why did kg give up a 12ft turn around to pass to rondo who slipped

also evan turner starting to look like a real basketball player the last few weeks

this year's celtics summarized in one play xp

like wtf is this shit:

Haralabos Voulgaris ‏@haralabob
Javale McGee just took it end to end in traffic and finger rolled it in. That was actually nice.

I mean I watched the whole game and McGee was 9-9 with like 5 dunks, a sick coast to coast layin and the thing that gets gif'd is literally the only mistake he made all game, it's an obnoxious double standard that's applied to this guy

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 7, 2012 9:55 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

who cares?? it's a gif! you sound like a jets fan defending mark sanchez in 2009

I would venture to say that most NBA fans think he sucks

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 7, 2012 9:57 PM (52 seconds ago)

i watched the hawks/nuggs game on the plane with my javale-skeptic friend and was very dismayed that he struggled :(

matt's javale crush is so cute

spurs are owning the rockets right now. tiago just threw a behind the back pass into traffic for a TO.

30/23/6/2/2 for joakim tonight btw

holy hell

spurs lineup is all foreigners right now
xp lmao JOAKIM!

did joakim and andy v. get on the same drug regimen or something? feel like both those dudes have had a bunch of huge games this year.

btw the best way to say JOAKIM is like when ice cubes (actor) mom is yelling "OSHEA!" at him in that intro to giving up the nappy dugout

huge sanders block

http://imgur.com/ldA6G

http://i.imgur.com/ldA6G.jpg

i like how everyone else is literally just standing around

some ridiculous lines tonight

so the warriors are gonna make the playoffs huh

don't jinx steph's ankle man

is jeff van gundy really hoarse tonight? this is distracting me.

I would venture to say that most NBA fans think he sucks
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 7, 2012 9:57 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Datapoint: during the off-season I wanted the Pacers to pay Javale possibly max money and let Roy go, and I actually like Roy!

Think atp most NBA fans think that he's a really exciting player who, less and less, has been prone to basketblolz. I'd kill to have him on the Pacers!

literally every single time i've turned on a lakers game this year, the first thing i've seen is metta world peace bricking a 3

bill walton on the kings telecast fyi

westbrook is just killing the lakers

crazy, LA never gets massacred by opposing point guards

dishing to dwight for a corner 3 def a good idea

i had to rewind because i thought i heard incorrectly that dwight had shot a 3

Westbrook hits 5 threes in a half and all of a sudden Magic Johnson thinks he's a smart point guard

this halftime show is somehow better simply by getting rid of barry, wilbon & stu scott but woof this is still such a pain

so in the wolves game tonight, kevin love shot 18 free throws tonight. the cavs shot 9 AS A TEAM.

cavs w/o kyrie & waiters has to be the most painful team in the nba. andy had just 4/14 tonight.

cavs 4-16, toronto minutes away from being the same

yeah what in the world is going on with them

the halftime show really has no hope while they have to keep humoring magic

seems like lowry has really been playing bad since he came back from injury, i wonder if he's still hurt

the halftime show really has no hope while they have to keep humoring magic

― call all destroyer, Friday, December 7, 2012 11:03 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah the halftime show should be a live action simmons podcast imo. just a rotating cast of zach lowe, hollinger and jalen.

he was playing pretty over his head at the beginning xp

KD is close to overtaking lebron for the PER lead btw, lebron hasn't finished a season outside of first since 06

god van gundy sounds like hell

I've watched a few Toronto games this year, and Bargnani is such a drag on them. The laziness, the poor D, the dumb 3s. And he's keeping maybe their second best player (Ed Davis) on the bench.

lol refs

omg you guys i'm following matt armstrong on twitter now ^_^

me too!

hahaha thabo is like the anti mamba

the thabo assist

refs really want the lakers to get back in this game

ahaha, JVG making an unsolicited popovich/stern crack

lmao shitting on nba tv

twitter ILH crew thx guys

watched a few thunder games this year and its really jumped out at me how much better durants passing is, some sort of light bulb went on

How much can Nash really help this team? They have ZERO shooting? Guys, what if they dont make the playoffs!?

well he can help their shooting but yeah

basically they need nash to come back healthy and push the offense to top 3 in the nba level and they need dwight to figure himself out and transform their defense

omg that van gundy photo

talking about the lakers

Kevin Pelton ‏@kpelton
I just threw tonight's minutes into SCHOENE and this would project as a 47-win team.

+healthy gasol xp - asking a lot obvs

that stat always kinda cracks me up, it has the same first five letters as my last name xp

i still think they're gonna trade pau if he can prove he's healthy. he's just the odd man out on offense, they have bigger needs and they already traded him once.

I just threw tonight's minutes into SCHOECH and got a .gif of adam schefter's floating head

otm

ah, hello there world peace

METTA

Why would you tangle up w Metta!?

i still think they're gonna trade pau if he can prove he's healthy. he's just the odd man out on offense, they have bigger needs and they already traded him once.

― J0rdan S., Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:05 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is i think the way to go, obvs as you said hes got to prove hes not broken

Yeah that's def their best chance

try to get a couple few rotation player for him imho

Yep. They need depth (and energy)

yeah they need to get a serviceable big back and a few guys to beef up their rotation

I hear Beidrins is awesome. Go after him imo.

make dwight feel better abt his ft shooting

excited to see who takes on grumpy oldman pau

i'm gonna try and work the trade machine here

pau for david lee & jarret jack, who says no

make dwight feel better abt his ft shooting

― lag∞n, Friday, December 7, 2012 10:14 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg yes, great point, reason enough

hmm xp

I don't see how Pau goes to the Wolves without a third team involved. Dwight and Pekovic is a beautiful dream but not something D'Antoni would be into imo

i wouldn't trade pek for pau

trade machine is hard right now cuz all the FAs have restrictions on them until 12/15

the realgm one lets you ignore that

pau for brandon bass, courtney lee & jeff green, who says no

wolves get HOSED in that trade

er sorry the lakers do

they do but i'm not sure they're gonna be able to trade pau for equal value

i don't think it's that terrible actually... bass would fit perfectly with dwight, i still think lee is a fine player & jeff green... well, whatever

pau for david lee & jack is interesting imo... i don't think jack alone solves their issues but it would help a lot. hard to make the salaries work w/ golden state tho

jeff green hit three 3s tonight lakers u should totally trade for him he is v good at basketball

i think the announcer for the first espn game tonight said that jeff green had a "career high" 19 points, can that be right?

he did say that but it was just a season high really

i think houston is an intriguing option. lin & harden don't really work together and houston could use a big that's consistent on offense. lin would be a good fit for the lakers' second unit even tho he can't shoot and is good insurance against nash getting hurt... they would maybe need to get a third team involved tho.

jeff green once scored 37 points

as i mentioned, jeff green is amazing at basketball

here are haberstroh's pau proposals

Trade 1: Lakers get: Danilo Gallinari (4 years, $42M), Andre Miller (3, $14.6M) | Nuggets get: Gasol, Jordan Hill (2, $7.1M), Darius Morris ($1M)

Of all the trades, this might make the most sense and here's why: Take my underperforming big man. Who knows what happened to Gallinari's jump shot? Sounds like a job for D'Antoni, his former coach who once called Gallo the greatest shooter he's ever seen. Of course, that "greatest shooter I've ever seen" is shooting a crisp 29 percent from downtown this season, the lowest mark among the 24 sharpshooters with at least 85 3-point attempts.

Gallinari has thrived in D'Antoni's system before, and it's hard to imagine a better reclamation project for D'Antoni than his fellow Italian marksman. But in order to make the money work, the Nuggets would have to throw in another player with a medium-sized contract. Miller fits the bill and fills a need for the Lakers at backup point guard. From a health standpoint, it doesn't get any more dependable than Miller, who's missed exactly one game over the past six seasons.

The Nuggets have frontcourt depth, but Gasol gives them a true star if healthy. Including Miller (who's only eligible to be traded after Dec. 15) in the deal would be a steep price to pay for Gasol alone and that's where Hill comes in. The 25-year-old is the only remotely intriguing young asset on the Lakers' roster and would likely have to be included to make it worthwhile for the Nuggets. The Lakers would love to get their hands on a "3-and-D" player like Corey Brewer, but Miller might fill a greater need.

Fit level: Strong

Trade 2: Lakers get: Andrea Bargnani (3 years, $32.5M) and Jose Calderon ($10.6M expiring) | Raptors get: Gasol

The Lakers would receive both insurance on Steve Nash and Steve Blake in addition to a floor-spacing big needing a change of scenery. Make no mistake about it: Bargnani is a traffic cone in pick-and-roll defense. But you can excuse that when Bargnani's perimeter-oriented game is practically tailor-made for D'Antoni's system.

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Andrea Bargnani is tailor-made for Mike D'Antoni's system.
For the Raptors? They currently stand five games out of a playoff spot, which is well within striking distance at this stage of the season. A Kyle Lowry, DeMar DeRozan and Gasol trio would be more than enough talent to crash the playoff picture assuming Gasol returns soon at full health and Derrick Rose does not. Worst-case scenario? The Raptors have Gasol tutor Jonas Valanciunas and then flip Gasol to a contender in the offseason for more youthful assets.

Fit level: Moderate

Trade 3: Lakers get: Ersan Ilyasova (5, $32M) and Monta Ellis (2, $22M) | Bucks get: Pau Gasol and 2013 second-round pick (from Memphis)

The Lakers have arguably the worst bench of any title-chaser in the league, but Ellis would be perfectly suited for a Leandro Barbosa circa 2004-05 role off the bench in D'Antoni's offense. Though Ellis carries a scoring average suited for a starting gig, his subpar shooting efficiency makes him a strong candidate to be a second-unit supersub a la Jamal Crawford.

Look around the league and you'll discover it's slim pickings at stretch 4. But Ilyasova (trade eligible after Dec. 15) finds himself on the short list, which is why Milwaukee felt he was worth throwing $32 million at this past offseason. As alarming as his torpedo act in the 3-point percentage and rebounding columns have been this season, it's not like Gasol has been sparkling, either. Ilyasova might be worth the gamble, even if he's not a household name.

Like the Raptors, the Bucks find themselves jostling for playoff position in the East and Gasol (again, if healthy) could give them the scoring boost at the 5 they desperately need. According to 82games.com, the Bucks rank 27th in scoring at the center slot. Free agents aren't exactly flocking to sign in Milwaukee so trading for a star like Gasol remains one of their lone options to make a splash.

Fit level: Moderate

ugh at rondo slipping on that stupid court decal

kg never shouldve passed him the ball!

Like he makes that shot anyway

xp

rondo took and missed the shot at the end of regulation too! wtf!

Love how evan turner just turns around and stands there in the final play

would love to see bargnani and calderon on the lakers, thatd be the ultimate diantoni assignment, if they win it all w those dudes hes earned his money

man I despise all those haberstroh trades haha

If Colangelo trades for Pau he's worse than Kahn

raptors have no need for a guy like pau, denver on the other hand

i think the nuggs need to get rid of miller but i'm not sure pau is great for their system

If I had to bet it's gonna be the TWolves, Glen Taylor wants to win now because he's selling the team in 3-4 years

man I despise all those haberstroh trades haha

― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:35 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

me too

pau for al jefferson, alec burks and earl watson

that one doesn't really work, alec burks can't shoot

i think milwaukee is one of the more interesting ones, but lol at pau in milwaukee

pau for monta/mike dunleavy/doron lamb

idk if the bucks would do that but that would be a great trade for that lakers imo, dunleavy has been incredible this year

maybe sub out mbah a moute for dunleavy?

pau & steve blake for rodney stuckey, corey magette and jason maxiell

pau & calderon to dallas, mayo & bargnani to lakers, kaman, marion & collison to toronto

pau & meeks to orlando, big baby, hedo & redick to LA

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6173907

what say ye

omg you guys

pau & blake to philly for andrew bynum, jason richardson & dorrell wright

brandon roy is completely untradeable tho right?

Dec. 15th he's tradeable afaik

i love the idea of the lakers taking bynum of philly's hands and benching him for the season and giving them pau in order to get back two shooters

yeah no trade restriction beyond that xp

Dec. 15th he's tradeable afaik

― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:47 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

oh i just mean the combination of medicals & horrid play makes him in reality untradeable

pau/blake for bynum, lavoy allen, jason richarson... how does LA say no

I think Toronto would want roy because his second year is unguaranteed

actually now that I think of it they probably wouldn't even want Pek since they'll be tanking idk

yeah i liked the idea of toronto taking back some of those random dallas players on one year deals but i couldn't figure it out on the trade machine cuz of the dec 15 restriction

My first NBA action of the season and this thunder/Lakers game well on the way to being the blowout I expected, but boy is Russell westbrook fun to watch.

Love that all three of Haberstroh's trades are basically "trade Pau for another Euro." Pau should just say fuck yall / buy me out like Odom, then go live the easy life reading audiobooks somewhere.

Stephen Jackson @DaTrillStak5
Somebody tell serg Abaka. He aint bout dis life. Next time he run up on me im goin in his mouth. That's a promise. He doin 2 much.

no h

This made me chortle, slightly:

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/12/08/115091/

andray blatche and javale mcgee are 7/8 in PER this year

awesome

that was a sick bonner dunk last nite

andray blatche and javale mcgee are 7/8 in PER this year

Yeah the Wizards really nurture talent huh?

8-8-3 for odom tonight in 20 mins

whoa the bobcats are starting Diop and Biyombo

last night, why did doc rivers draw up 2 last minute plays giving rondo the ball whyyyyyyyyyyy

and courtney lee with that uncontested airball smdh

mkg just took duncan to the rack with a nice reverse

ohhh man that was primo wade

Pierce is deceptively slow. It's the only answer for why his old man game is so effective; players react quickly and he goes sneaky slow, so they foul him on their second reaction.

he had an old man game when he was 23

crazy thing about pierce is that apparently he wins the full court sprints among his teammates

Sneaky slow.

I find it bizarre that in all these years nobody has quite solved how to defend him.

z-bo just shot a technical free throw with the rest of the starters on the court

klay thompson slump is over

z-bo just shot a technical free throw with the rest of the starters on the court

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:05 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's shooting 75% this year so it's not that crazy

conley shoots like 90% doesn't he?

well he's only 82% this year

has this been posted yet

Dave McMenamin ‏@mcten
Kobe on the team's viewing of "Lincoln": "I don't know if the guys knew who he was ... It came as a big shock to them when he was killed"
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Lin benched for Toney Douglas again

What's crazy is that Zach at 75% is the worst FT shooter out of their starters. That's nuts.

lmao kobe

spurs put up 130 on charlotte

bradley beal just had the worst choke of the season

oh nvm it was blocked I guess

wtf, harden has 30-5-5 at halftime, why did i switch that game

33 on 13 shots r/n

fyi Grizzlies bench attendant is really cute, also Tony Allen takes water not Gatorade

Grizzlies announcers inform us that Rudy Gay has a 21 game 14+ point scoring streak

Joltin' Joe, Cal Ripken, Rudy Gay imo

man hawks winning in memphis for their 9th out the last 10 and with 40 mil in cap space next offseason.

mayo couldn't decide which eye he got poked in

what is going on with the grizz announcers "Mike Conley's streak of 9 consecutive multi-steal games is in jeopardy"

wtf was that from houston

@CelticsHub: KG on grabbing no rebounds: "I had a rebound in the first quarter. That's bulls***. I think that's an error. We are going to fix that"

Tony Allen takes water not Gatorade

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:13 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

baller

Andray Blatche as a starter: 19-11-2-2 on 54% shooting

I'm not taking the bait. I'm not taking the bait. I'm not taking the bait...

its okay dwight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x-MW5tkTWtQ

oof.

ha what

I can't remember the last year where so many players made huge leaps

javale time baby!

denver-knicks is very good so far

somehow it didn't occur to me until this weekend that the knicks have 2/5ths of the mav's championship lineup on the team in chandler & kidd

this is also the corey brewer vs ronnie brewer game

when worlds collide

these green-yellow-black jazz alternates might be one of the worst in the league, they look like bucks rejects

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1854899/westbrook-hibbert.gifhttp

the calls the Knicks get in MSG...

ha gallo's gotten a couple of generous calls on kidd.

did you see that reverse lefty scoop and-1 before?

god iggy come on dude

i sort of don't like iggy

yeah that was probably gallo's best play of the season, even better than the coast2coast xp

wow iggy, help off a three point shooter when gallo is guarding someone 3 inches shorter than him on the block. sure.

George needs to just never play Faried at center

apparently Iguodala's is better than ever according to the synergy stats so whatever

the knicks whine after every foul call

gah ty

really weak shotblocking effort from kosta there

i think since the olympics melo has finally actually LOOKED in shape

before he always seemed to have that weirdly doughy paul pierce build, not that it matters really, but it is reassuring

well Dwight ain't winning DPoY this time

The NBA has fined San Antonio's Stephen Jackson $25,000 for his "hostile statement directed at Serge Ibaka in a Twitter message."

League really goin at San Antonio.

oh man you guys there was just an awesome shot of disappointed Jack Nicholson

the Spurs are going to fine Jackson for it to tho xp

https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/277999434367918080/photo/1

best work he's done in a decade

awesome

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1855619/jack-nicholson.gif

Someone needs to kobe fire that gif

If it could somehow perfectly morph into kupchak_zoom.gif I'd die

so good.

lakers lookin good, should turn it around any day now

...YET!?

feel like it would take the greatest coach in NBA history to turn this Lakers thing around

i wish i had a chris_hansen.gif of phil right now

http://i.imgur.com/hFO1m.jpg

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1855619/jack-nicholson.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7bd1snecf1r3yanko1_500.png

otm

lol

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/12/10/tracy-mcgrady-is-throwing-elbows-in-china-basketball/1758329/

as time passes the brief kobe vs mcgrady debate from years ago looks more and more like manning vs leaf.

i don't know about that. t-mac def was a good-to-great player for a while

tmac was better than kobe, just not for very long

yeah i mean obv mcgrades was awesome, '02-'03 in particular was an insane year.

p sure kobe is just some sort of immortal demon anyway so its not really a fair comparison

http://i.imgur.com/os0ZQ.gif

that gif is actually terrifying

Gif of the decade imo

The NBA fined Boston Celtics forward/center Chris Wilcox $25,000 for making an obscene gesture directed toward fans during Friday's loss in Philadelphia, NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson announced Sunday.

During a fourth-quarter timeout, Wilcox gave an in-house television camera broadcasting on the video board the middle finger when a "Kiss Cam" segment ended with a shot of him and teammate Jared Sullinger sitting next to each other on the Celtics' bench.

good for wilcox

in-house tv crew was asking for it

man charlotte has really reverted to its old ways after that brief flirtation with respectablilty

oh ridiculous left-handed putback slam from bron over teague o_o

deshawn stevenson is hitting 3s like it's the 2011 finals

hah, another one

2011 finals were really dope

Heat are shooting 65.3% so far tonight.

Over the past two weeks lebron is averaging 25, 9.2, and 8 with 2.6 assists nbd

2.6 steals?

he's having a down couple of weeks, he'll pick it up

Yes steals duh xp

omer asik really needs to address this hair situation, he's rocking the late 80s big man wite look

Not watching ATM but apparently Lin is shooting the lights out right now?

No Harden, so Lin can run the offense through himself. Working well.

chandler!

danny green on lin seems to work

wow lin

danny is all defense shit

kind of a rookie boner there

tried to play hero above his pay grade

OT.

timmy's got his abe lincoln beard on

that was lin's first turnover, bad timing

oh man, rockets got bailed out when asik made that jumper

he called glass

so, about lin reverting to linsanity the minute that harden sits out.........

good job morey

rockets need to get another decent PG and have lin run the second unit

Manu being Manu.

Ed Davis>>>>Bargnani

so, about lin reverting to linsanity the minute that harden sits out.........

― J0rdan S., Monday, December 10, 2012 10:29 PM (31 minutes ago)

hollinger made this point a week or so and called for their minutes to be staggered more to mitigate their redundancies

a week or so ago*

Man alive, the Lebron highlights tonight O__o

Amir Johnson just had one of the strangest altercations leading to an ejection I've ever seen

uh

yeah so amir johnson got ejected because the ref wouldn't let him hold the ball for a while when the Blazers were shooting FTs and then after ejection decided to throw his mouthpiece at the ref

it was so weird that I'm a little suspicious of what was behind it. Most refs do let players hold the ball for a bit between FTs

so, about lin reverting to linsanity the minute that harden sits out.........

― J0rdan S., Monday, December 10, 2012 10:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good job morey

― 乒乓, Monday, December 10, 2012 10:30 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they need to figure this out

between ft's Amir grabbed the dead ball and a ref went over to take it. Amir wouldn't let it go. They both held onto the ball for a few seconds until Amir said something that led to the ref ejecting him. He had to be restrained and threw his mouthpiece at the ref as he was being held back. XP

Harden isn't making Lin brick open three pointers guys

thats not lins game!

i mean hes not a great shooter

everyone knows

i'm sort of like iatee with cars on this issue in that i support just about any ref action against any player hijinks during free throws. this includes high-fiving, stepping across the lane at the last minute, holding the ball, etc

Harden isn't making Lin brick open three pointers guys

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, December 10, 2012 11:40 PM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark

well he is in the sense that his role has been dwindled to exactly that at times, so you're sort of missing literally the entire point

yeah lin should not be a jump shooter is the thing

during Linsanity Lin chucked up a ton of threes

i'm sort of like iatee with cars on this issue in that i support just about any ref action against any player hijinks during free throws. this includes high-fiving, stepping across the lane at the last minute, holding the ball, etc

― k3vin k., Monday, December 10, 2012 11:42 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my #hoopidea for having only one free throw ever that would be worth one two or three depending would solve everything

eh his game obv is pick and rolls, getting to the rim and drawing fouls. he's not going to last long as star shooting jumpers xp

he's actually getting more attempts at the rim in HOU than he did in NYK and shooting a better percentage on them. It's everything else that's plummeted.

Luke Babbitt is funny

@jwquick I just watched Luke Babbitt drive past Mickael Pietrus and dunk over Ed Davis. For real. I swear

IIRC Babbitt had like a 40 inch vertical at the combine, but that's combine jumping not game jumping

toronto's interior defense is a joke

the toronto draft pick tanking is gonna be wild and woolly

if they crater this year how can colangelo survive

i mean i know he will so that's sort of rhetorical but really

the Blazers went 0-20 from 3 and won by 18

NBA record for three-pointers attempted without a make.

lol, deserves a place in the stats thread.

records of human futility have a special place in my heart

Oh man lillard 2-14 ouch.

Also, the Raps went 3-21 so both teams combined 3-41 oooooof

good job great effort

Tim MacMahon ‏@espn_macmahon
DeMarcus Cousins says shot to O.J. Mayo's, um, groin was "not intentional." Mayo: "That guy has some mental issues."

hah

http://hoopspeak.com/2012/12/houstons-offense-a-combination-of-great-shot-selection-poor-shooting/

Last season, the other teams that populated the top of the Long Two Leaderboard were teams like Charlotte (last in offensive efficiency), Philadelphia (20th), Boston (25th), Toronto (29th), and Washington (26th).

this argument would be much better rendered in ts% not efficiency! of course then the celtics wouldnt be cellar dwellers and yr argument isnt as good, celtics problem as always was turnovers, good piece overall tho

yeah v interesting. parsons drilled 4 or 3 threes in the last 5 minutes last night. toney douglas is shooting p well last games (strange)

LMA in this houston team is my morey-project. a scoring big who could pop out. could turn out to be pretty (& efficient) bball.

anthony davis back tonight!

sweet

Givony (draftexpress): "As a Suns lottery pick, it is downright disturbing how poorly point guard Kendall Marshall is playing for Bakersfield of the D-League."

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/heatindex/articles/20121210phoenix-suns-putting-bad-bad-news.html

In their landfill of losses, the Suns were dumping the same empty regrets and re-commitments after one of their more lame losses when an opposing player summed it up more succinctly.

“We’re the ‘Bad News Bears’ and they’re worse than us,” the player told a cohort.

I realllllly want to know who said this.

beasley

has super cool been shitty? once adelman gave up on him i knew there was no hope

super shitty.

tbh Adelman hates a lot of players who are good, he's a fickle dude

remember when he took forever to bench Nick Anderson for Peja? Man I'm getting old.

*finicky, not fickle