Or, uh, Herland
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 7 March 2022 19:01 (two years ago) link
Y oh Y Are All the Wangs Gone?
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 7 March 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link
-Pete Seeger
― i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 March 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link
Or Lauren Beukes' Afterland (which is only 2 years old) where 4 billion males die off in a plague
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 7 March 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link
Or...jesus
https://pictures.abebooks.com/isbn/9780385696630-us.jpg
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 7 March 2022 19:06 (two years ago) link
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, March 7, 2022 2:02 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol
― horseshoe, Monday, 7 March 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link
over here singing "when will we ever learn?" to myself
― castanuts (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link
apparently her *next* book is a retelling of 1984 from julia’s pov
― mookieproof, Monday, 7 March 2022 19:43 (two years ago) link
High concept writing
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 7 March 2022 19:46 (two years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/ARcuWefq7y— Sandra Newman (@sannewman) January 30, 2018
― bulb after bulb, Monday, 7 March 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link
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― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link
^ I'm curious, why do you post these?
― jmm, Monday, 7 March 2022 20:08 (two years ago) link
yeah seems pointless
― rob, Monday, 7 March 2022 20:11 (two years ago) link
Not sure. Can't think of anything to say but for some reason want to respond. Thought it was local ascii for "speechless." I couldn't think of anythingg to top anything on that thread. Almost said "I stopped at the twentieth one."
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:12 (two years ago) link
(to be clear, "pointless" was just a bad pun)
I scrolled until I got to 100 and gave up
― rob, Monday, 7 March 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link
Also wanted to ask mookie whether that1984 thing was a joke or not. If it isn't true it might as well be.
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link
Ha, I figured the "pointless" thing was a joke but wasn't sure how to respond to that either. Was hoping somebody would follow up with a further punctuation gag.
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:16 (two years ago) link
Ah, gotcha, thanks for the explanation.
― jmm, Monday, 7 March 2022 20:17 (two years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/dec/07/feminist-retelling-of-nineteen-eighty-four-approved-by-orwells-estatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TN-kDEKxF0
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:23 (two years ago) link
This author is like Amanda Palmer and Pomplamoose [insert yr other ILX faves here] rolled into one.
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:25 (two years ago) link
But perhaps this is an injustice to her sui generis originality or lack thereof.
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:27 (two years ago) link
I thought about it a lot, and questioned my position, and etc But after a while
and etc
― Heez, Monday, 7 March 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link
getting some sort of initial success as a writer must be very much like cocaine
― imago, Monday, 7 March 2022 21:19 (two years ago) link
I still can't believe the Pomplamoose guy is the CEO of Patreon
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 7 March 2022 22:32 (two years ago) link
ugh, things i didn't know i didn't want to know
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 7 March 2022 22:33 (two years ago) link
of course he is
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 March 2022 23:02 (two years ago) link
like least surprising thing ever
To be fair, in the new one the men don’t all die, they vanish and go elsewhere and behave alarmingly and are visible through unclear means and then at the end they come back.
Haven’t read anything else by her, though.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 7 March 2022 23:39 (two years ago) link
So are you…recommending it then? You got an advance down under copy?
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 March 2022 23:51 (two years ago) link
Basically a worldwide boys' weekend?
― jmm, Monday, 7 March 2022 23:58 (two years ago) link
Go elsewhere and behave alarmingly
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 00:02 (two years ago) link
it’s written in a goofy made-up lingo by someone who has never heard more than 30 seconds of someone speaking AAVE but thinks they are an expert in it
― castanuts (DJP), Monday, March 7, 2022 4:17 AM (twelve hours ago)
it's like she tried to do a version of the Belter slang from the Expanse novels, which was set in space in the future and combined with enough other linguistic elements to not be racist-cringe, but, she set her novel on Earth, in America, and added in some "pastoral" elements, and it reads like someone took "Uncle Tom's Cabin" ran it through google translate for Expanse Belter and then translated it back to racist-cringe
― sarahell, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 01:27 (two years ago) link
https://www.npr.org/2015/08/27/434970724/the-wake-is-an-unlikely-hit-in-an-imaginary-language
I accidentally bought this without realizing it's written in a (much less offensive) invented version of (I guess) 'old English.' The only way I made it through ten pages was to read out loud and then I decided it wasn't worth the effort.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 01:37 (two years ago) link
how did it compare to Game of Thrones?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 01:44 (two years ago) link
Less incest presumably. But maybe not.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 01:56 (two years ago) link
If you know any Nordic languages it helps. Lots of the words are just misspelled/modified Scandinavian words. Which of course makes sense (the Danes were there before the French). Anyway, it's a really good book.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 02:27 (two years ago) link
Yeah, got an advance copy. I liked it, but having read it after watching the Y The Last Man TV series meant it wasn't exactly fresh (though it did do a number of different things with the premise). To be honest my main problem was the plot relies on one character being an incredibly charismatic natural leader lots of people are irresistibly drawn to, and it did not sell me on their charms.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 02:34 (two years ago) link
Paul Kingsnorth of The Wake has his own problems, being an anti-vaxxer let-everything-fall-apart accelerationist.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 02:35 (two years ago) link
Basically, my advice is forget everything else in this thread, everyone should read RIDDLEY WALKER, which is brilliant.
haha i like hoban but couldn't deal with that patois either
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 02:37 (two years ago) link
Saw that stuff about Kingsnorth elsewhere. I see that Sandra Newman got some good reviews for The Heavens, maybe I will check that one out.
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 02:39 (two years ago) link
Kingsnorth may be an accelerationist and a former-conservationist-turned-IRL-prepper (IRL in both senses lol) (also, didn't know about the antivaxxer stuff?) but The Wake is too brilliant a work to flippantly dismiss, and one which very much allows its reader to take a different moral viewpoint to its narrator's
― imago, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 02:56 (two years ago) link
Without giving away any spoilers. And also without giving away any spoilers, lol milo
― imago, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 02:58 (two years ago) link
International Rugby League?
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 03:00 (two years ago) link
He now lives in rural IReLand! Waiting for the climate apocalypse
― imago, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 03:05 (two years ago) link
Kingsnorth seems about as crazy as Jaz Coleman of Killing Joke (who I believe moved to Iceland at one point, to wait out Y2K). The Wake remains a very good book.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 03:10 (two years ago) link
have you summoned the fire?
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 03:54 (two years ago) link
can anyone (tables is tables?) explain the clusterfuck around sean thor conroe's novel? saw some vague allusions to it on twitter but couldn't traceback. i like his podcast
― flopson, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 09:30 (two years ago) link
The fact it's called "Fuccboi" seems pretty explanatory tbh. Aside from that someone (Sam Pink) claims he ripped off their style.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 09:36 (two years ago) link
It sounds like the novel equivalent of the Anne Hathaway vehicle Havoc (directed by Barbara Kopple of Harlan County, USA fame!)
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 09:37 (two years ago) link