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https://philgalfond.beehiiv.com/p/elephant-poker-room

galfond could certainly use an editor, but I completely agree. doug is an amazing player and peerless analyst (when he puts work into it…he doesn’t prep as much for his videos these days) but he’s a bully and his non-analysis videos suck

k3vin k., Friday, 30 June 2023 23:15 (eleven months ago) link

Charlie Carrel is an antivaxxer who I had to block because he shares too much LibsOfTikTok bullshit, seems like one of the last guys who should be talking about "empathy". Regardless Doug is a total dick whose brain has been infected by YouTube disease, he's a great analytical player but shockingly unnuanced when it comes to any other topic.

the JNandez thing was real bullshit too, I primarily play PLO these days so I know his stuff pretty well, dude definitely seems legit to me. Doug feels like he's trying to be some Fantano-type personality whose appeal expands beyond poker while JNandez really is all business. dragging his name through the mud was a real dick move.

I like Galfond, like DNegs he seems like one of the actual good guys in poker, but yeah that sure was a lot of words

frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 14:03 (ten months ago) link

ten months pass...

just catching up on this doug polk is a bull story ten months later and i dont think its necessarily wrong that doug is a bully but i think theres some nuance missing in galfonds essay and other talk ive seen on the situation which is that matt berkey is a weird dick whos always "speaking his mind", prob a bit of a cry bully sitch going on here, got into a beef with doug which i dont totally know the origins of but i remember he said he was gonna play in a game doug was playing in and was talking shit like these math guys may be good online but get them on the felt where im king and well see whats up and then backed out, so berkey is beefing with doug hes pretty unlikable not totally honest he runs a coaching site thats prob not very good and doug is like this guy sucks i hate him which is a not unreasonable conclusion, but he doesnt really consider his position of power or maybe he just thinks its cool and good that hes powerful and its his right to crush berkey, whatever it is he obvs took it way too far and deserved to be called on it, but berkey jumped in the octogon and got wrecked too

lag∞n, Monday, 6 May 2024 16:00 (three weeks ago) link

i watched an episode of that show where the players wear headphones to block out the sound so they can talk about the hands while they play and berkey and his protege were on and they were just not cool or nice guys very arrogant and lame, so i can understand how when a guy who sucks steps to you its just insulting, even by poker standards they came off as notably low quality guys

lag∞n, Monday, 6 May 2024 16:07 (three weeks ago) link

wait a sec what is this show, feel like even if you can't hear exactly what people are saying there are still all sorts of tells you could pick up just hearing a guy talk about what he's actually thinking in a hand

I agree most big name poker players are arrogant and obnoxious, comes with the territory I guess. I mean the way the game works even the best players still lose a ton so maybe they always feel like they have something to prove. Polk in particular is a guy I wouldn't mind never seeing again.

frogbs, Monday, 6 May 2024 16:43 (three weeks ago) link

its called poker out loud, pretty cool idea, they dont really get top players on there tho, i mean theyre much better than me but still would be cooler to hear the top guys

lag∞n, Monday, 6 May 2024 16:46 (three weeks ago) link

really been enjoying nick shulman and brian rast commentating on the last triton series

nxd, Monday, 6 May 2024 17:08 (three weeks ago) link

yeah the triton broadcasts are top notch

brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 6 May 2024 19:11 (three weeks ago) link


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