Vegan chocolate cake

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I wanna make a vegan chocolate cake. It's for someone else (I'm only a vegetarian), so it has to be the best. There are lots of recipes for such things. I have a few in my house, I think, but it's the difficulty of deciding between them that has led to this question. Therefore, I'm trusting the judgement of the people here to provide me with a recipe for a vegan chocolate cake that a) you've had yourself, and b) you would testify that it's the best.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Monday, 4 November 2002 00:51 (twenty-two years ago) link

Use a normal recipe with the following replacements:

Use vegetable margarine or oil instead of butter
Use orange juice instead of milk
Use golden syrup for part of the sugar to replace the eggs
Use brown sugar instead of raw or white sugar, it's richer & moister
Use vegetable margarine in the icing to make is soft and yum

toraneko (toraneko), Monday, 4 November 2002 01:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

That's interesting. But how do I fix quantities? Like, how much syrup per egg? Also, you think it's better to use orange juice rather than soya milk?

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Monday, 4 November 2002 01:44 (twenty-two years ago) link

Don't worry too much about exact quantites. As long as the final consistency is about right then it's okay. Other than the flour and cocoa add things bit by bit and taste along the way to get it right.

Depending on what recipe you've got I'd say use equal amounts of cocoa and flour (most recipes use more flour and aren't rich enough).

If it's a 'cream the butter and sugar' type cake, don't use all the sugar for this or it might end up too sweet. Use about half what they say as the golden syrup will be very sweet.

Use about a tablespoon of golden syprup per egg. Taste-test and add more sugar if you need to, to get the sweetness right. It's too easy to make chocolate cake too sweet so lots of tasting is good.

Orange juice makes it really yummy. I never use soy milk in cakes. You don't need much liquid though. Just add it bit by bit so it doesn't get too sloppy.

toraneko (toraneko), Monday, 4 November 2002 01:54 (twenty-two years ago) link

mister, i would strongly advise against making a vegan chocolate cake. i've tried many recipes from the internet and elsewhere and every single one has been a stinker. the worst one has vinegar in the recipe and crops up lots of places on the internet and even in professional cook books. i think it's like a revised depression-era poor-man's cake recipe that hobos who couldn't afford eggs would make. the texture is similar to that of chocolate bread, dense and flat, not even remotely cake-like. beware of this recipe in particular. there are other recipes that use soaked pitted prunes or dates that you then mash up and add to the cake in lieu of eggs. they are only marginally better, and thats being generous.

you can make decent brownies, fudges, chocolate chip cookies without any dairy ingredients but genuine Fluffy Cake is a waste of time and will leave you bitterly disappointed for having tried making.

if this is for someone's birthday, be extra careful not to make a them vegan chocolate cake, unless you enjoy being embarrased or enjoy embarrasing people on their birthday. make them brownies or give them some money or something (and make sure they don't use that money to buy a vegan chocolate cake). under no circumstances should you make vegan cake. would you like chocolate bread on your birthday when everyone else gets to have fluffy cake. trust me, i've been a vegan for 5 years now and intend to stay that way but have yet to eat vegan cake that eats like real cake.

Bruice Stringbean, Monday, 4 November 2002 01:56 (twenty-two years ago) link

Maybe the better and easier thing to make is a vegan chocolate pie?

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 4 November 2002 02:06 (twenty-two years ago) link

But, Bruice, I've had vegan cake at several restaurants that tasted perfect. I'm only trying to emulate these. If you're saying I can't, then I'd kind of agree with you. I probably can't. But that isn't to say that it's not possible.

To be honest, the tastiest thing I could do would be to get a take-away cake from Mildred's in Soho or something. But the whole point is, I wanna make the effort of baking a cake for someone who I know will appreciate the fact that I made the effort. Given my limited cooking skills, it's not necessarily gonna be the best available in London (in fact, it certainly won't be). She'll understand that. But I want to make the best cake that I can possibly make.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Monday, 4 November 2002 02:11 (twenty-two years ago) link

apparently there's a certain brand of from-the-box cake mix that a vegan friend o' mine makes all the time. This means it's clean, or she indulges like others of us enjoy a fine cuban cigar, or drink...

JM, Monday, 4 November 2002 03:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

You can buy 'not egg' stuff from the supermarket or health-food shop. I never use it. For those of us who've always used margarine instead of butter, whether vegan or not, the only difference between a normal cake and a vegan cake is the eggs - oh and some people put milk in cakes instead of orange juice or water.

The only way I've ever got a flat, bread-like cake is by forgetting to put in the baking soda. It's hard to make a dry and fluffy vegan cake as these are based on fluffy egg whites but there's no problem making a moist and delicious one. Make sure you don't make the mixture too runny though. Go easy on the liquids - this is for all cakes, not just vegan ones.

toraneko (toraneko), Monday, 4 November 2002 03:46 (twenty-two years ago) link

have you made the cake yet, Eyeball?

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 07:05 (twenty-two years ago) link

i have a good recipe which i have adapted from Rose Elliot's Vegan Feasts, you can make grebt brownies with it also. i'll try and remember to bring it in! if you find a good one post it up, THE WORLD NEEDS MORE VEGAN CHOCCIE CAKE!

katie (katie), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 09:07 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like the idea of depression-era hobos making chocolate cakes because I have had it with grim realism. I also like the way Bruice's warnings are so fervent! I'll be steering well clear of the vinegar recipe, and also the mashed dates!

Estela, Wednesday, 6 November 2002 09:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

yeah Bruice has been burnt by the mashed up egg substitutes!

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 09:39 (twenty-two years ago) link

The groom cake at the wedding I attended in DC last weekend was thoroughly vegan and seemed to get a more positive response than the other 'proper' cake.

I'll see if I can mither the creator for the recipe.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 15:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

have you made the cake yet, Eyeball?

I made it. It was kind of crispy on the outside, perfect just under that, and the middle was sticky and chewy.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 01:41 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'd agree with toreneko but use apple juice instead of orange juice, a sharp apple juice. I find that orange juice with all that sugar and syrup makes a cake too sweet. I'd also use less sweet sugars like dark muscavado, they're moister more flavoursome and less sweet. (You may be notice I don't like things too sweet).

For a really dark rich cake use treacle instead of golden syrup.
It comes out dense but in a deliciously sticky and gooey way.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 10:26 (twenty-two years ago) link


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