"IN THIS TRAINING, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT YOU'VE BEEN ACTING LIKE ASSHOLES. ALL YOUR FUCKING CLEVERNESS AND SELF-DECEPTION HAVE GOTTEN YOU NOWHERE!"

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This is a thread about est and other creepy '70s California self-improvement/new age/cult culture.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 1 May 2004 03:58 (twenty years ago) link

"I don't get it," one trainee once told trainer Stewart Emery during a New York est session.

"Good," Emery replied. "There's nothing to get so you got it."

"I get it," the trainee said, as a broad grin slid across her face "So getting it is whatever you get."

"If that's what you got."

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 1 May 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, mindfuck time!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.flashbacksixties.com/images/60

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

btw i nominate the thread title as official ilx mantra

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

I protest. My self-deception has made a man out of mac!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

California owns all you punk-cult asses!

Let's see: Synanon, Heaven's Gate, The People's Temple, Mentalphysics, Unarius, the Theosophists, Scientology

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago) link

Also, the entire town of Idyllwild, California to thread

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:07 (twenty years ago) link

The biggest cult invasion into California is the Soka Gakkai Buddhist sect which is busy building universities in Orange County and Calabasas. More background info

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:15 (twenty years ago) link

Was Eckankar out here as well?

And yeah, the Soka crew is starting to turn up over at the UCI library in dribs and drabs (because we actually HAVE a library, I'm guessing).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:15 (twenty years ago) link

Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church was based in California for a long time too.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:17 (twenty years ago) link

Eckankar is based in Minnesota now, but back in the day they were based here.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

meanwhile, over in oregon...

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

Jack Parsons, one of the founders of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory was an OTO member

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:20 (twenty years ago) link

Anton La Vey

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:20 (twenty years ago) link

Hahaha! The Rajneesh people were based in Laguna Beach for awhile before they split for Oregon. I used to see them walking along Laguna Canyon Rd. all the time.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

I'm veering away from the "70s era" cults, but I can't help but keep posting here.

Aimee Semple McPherson was based in Los Angeles. And lets not forget Dr. Gene Scott

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

Wack-job UFO cult The Aetherius Society has a office/temple in Hollywood.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:28 (twenty years ago) link

OK, time to put some URLs here...

The Mentalphysics people. They've been around since the 50s.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

Nearby to the Mentalphysics retreat is the Integratron and Giant Rock

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:32 (twenty years ago) link

Run for your lives it's the UNARIUS SOCIETY!

Sorry, the "Unarius Academy of Science"

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

The People's Temple entry at Wikipedia

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:36 (twenty years ago) link

What's the ratio of sincere cult leaders to fraudsters laughing all the way to the bank?

Stuart (Stuart), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:40 (twenty years ago) link

What's the ratio of sincere cult leaders to fraudsters laughing all the way to the bank?

Probably similar to the ratio of sincere cult leaders to fraudsters that drank the purple Kool-Aide and ate the apple sauce.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:44 (twenty years ago) link

Ever watch that A&E special on Scientology?

Creepy!

Me and and a friend of mine checked out a Dianetics video from the library once.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:53 (twenty years ago) link

I am now Clear!

Jus' kiddin.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2004 05:03 (twenty years ago) link

I had no idea there were so many idiots in the world to fall for shit like all this.

(countdown till someone chimes in claiming one of the groups above is actually very good and helped them change their life, etc. begins NOW)

Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 1 May 2004 05:10 (twenty years ago) link

Scientology WILL change your life, if you give it a chance!

So many successful and famous people have used it: John Travolta, Lisa Marie Presley, Kirstie Alley...

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2004 05:15 (twenty years ago) link

L. Ron Hubbard is a genius!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2004 05:15 (twenty years ago) link

Latebloomer has used it, now he is very mind-ful of things he onced fevershidley embraced that caused his engrams to self-actumatate.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2004 05:16 (twenty years ago) link

I will stop now. My true Thetan self has tolden me of my Star-advent. I am now fully healed and free of bad thought-debris. End transmigrationism.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2004 05:18 (twenty years ago) link

Synanon, Heaven's Gate, Moonies, Scientology...
Bah! Weaklings.
None of them can match the Aum Shinrikyo doomsday cult for Raw
Atomic
Fucking
Firepower!

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Saturday, 1 May 2004 05:24 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 March 2007 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

damn it..

It's the ten year anniversary of the Heaven's Gate suicide

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 March 2007 00:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Whew. Makes me think how long I've been at my current job more than anything else.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 March 2007 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

This shit fascinates me so much, esp. est and its influence on what I call 'teen death camps' with all their nutso confessionals. Also, why does est think it can be all e.e. cummings and get away w/the lack of caps? What goons.

Everyone should read Sex and Rockets: the Occult World of Jack Parsons. OTO member Jack roomed with (among other people) L. Ron, who repiled to Jack's rental ad insisting that renters must not believe in God. L. Ron stole Jack's women and generally acted like a big, hilarious asshole. Of course the scinos tried to shut that shit out.

Also, Jack's girlfriend looks eerily like Kylie Minogue.

Abbott, Thursday, 22 March 2007 02:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Wulf mothalovin' Zendik!

Oilyrags, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

http://lvl5.org/

LevelFive is a live role-playing event focused on critically exploring self actualization seminars from the 1970’s. The LevelFive performance will loosely follow the structure of early Large Group Awareness Training sessions like Erhard Seminars Training, but it is not a re-enactment. The open-ended live role-playing environment provides a space in which players are free to explore self actualization issues with varying degrees of personal intensity, but via an alibi or fabricated character.

During the 1970’s hundreds of thousands of ordinary Americans came for weekend seminar sessions, to be taught how to free themselves from the restraints of contemporary society. Intended as a kind of self transformation for the masses, the seminars utilized a combination of various philosophic and spiritual teachings focused on “allowing participants to achieve, in a very brief time, a sense of personal transformation and enhanced power.” Quickly copied, successors included not only similar self actualization seminars, but also grew into the mass of success and corporate training seminars that we are familiar with today.

Players will arrive as their characters, and are expected to emote, and experience as their characters, with minimal interruptions for the 2-3 day duration of the game. LevelFive is a live game based on the Nordic style of progressive live role-play that explicitly works with “bleed”. In role-playing games, bleed happens when the thoughts and feelings of the character starts affecting its player, or vice-versa. Rather than forgetting the existence of an original self, the character becomes a tool for projection, self-exploration and experimentation.

DâM-EdnA-FunK (get bent), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link


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