Taking Sides: Titanic Vs Dirty Dancing Vs Pretty Woman Vs Ghost

I'll have to think about this one.

Of the four listed, I suppose Ghost. "Top Gun" is worse than any of those except titanic, which until I saw "Baise Moi", I thought was the worst film ever mead.

At least no-one minds if you laugh sardonically at "Pretty Woman".

ghost>>>dirty dancing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pretty woman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (x 1,000,000,000,000) titanic

"Ghost" doesn't.

mostly otm, but c'mon dude... "she's like the wind"???

Sorry, make pottery?

"Wo my love" or summat?

(Don't actually answer this btw)

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I should point out that there is this kind of background thing for me w/ghost. I went w/my future wife as was to a friend's house, to watch a video w/him and his partner. He went and rented "ghost" the fux0r. We (me & my friend) wound up having fits of the giggles because we kept imagining how much more enjoyable it wd be if it prominently featured Godzilla. We both wound up in the doghouse for a couple of days. You must admit though, if "Ghost" had been a Godzilla film, it would have been fucking great.

In Pretty Woman, the underlying moral was 'your past may well affect your future' i.e. when Gere's colleague finds out about Julia's ho past, and tries to buy a shag. The ending was a sad but inevitable one. Until they changed it to Richard buys a boat and moors it outside her flat, they embrace and head off into the sunset' crap.

"She walked off the street, into his life and stole his heart. aND dEMILOSHED hIS cONDO."

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Basically I agree with everything Jody said.

Beaches should have been included in this thread not Titanic (which blows but still).

Beaches, Dirty Dancing, Pretty Woman, Ghost

the contemporary (well not anymore)(btw more time has passed between dirty dancing and today than had passed between when dirty dancing was set and when it came out) soundtrack in dirty dancing doesn't bother me, it's generally incidental music and no more a part of the 'reality' than the score or whatever would be, but it has always thrown me that at the climax they're suddenly listening to this song that clearly couldn't have come out in 1963 and nobody's weirded out about it.

considering how expectation-bursting huge the two romantic movies patrick swayze made were, it's kind of amazing he didn't make more.

hell even his romance with keanu did pretty good, why the fuck was he making corny family shit like father hood and three wishes just two years later

not sure i'd put beaches in place of titanic (feels like it belongs on a list with fried green tomatoes and steel magnolias), but def agree titanic is out of place. not sure what would work as a fourth though - the contemporaneous absurd/absurdly successful kevin costner and tom cruise movies feel like their own beasts, and dying young underperformed enough to be an obvious Ringo if it was put with the other three.

is edward scissorhands too goth?

Titanic has Victor Garber in a supporting role. Pretty Woman has Ralph Bellamy in his last (?) screen credit. If any of the other films have any similar redeeming (?) virtues, I don't want to know about it.

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Titanic > Ghost > Pretty Woman > Death > Dirty Dancing

"she's like the wind" is totally a lost christopher cross song isn't it

DD > Titanic > Pretty Woman > Ghost

The first one is a really good film, the 2nd one is creditable, the other two bleh.

but yeah this is a weird list to start w/

i was trying to find a jpeg or gif of richard gere making his 'i'm loving this blowjob' face in pretty woman, that was a pretty good era for blowjob faces in cinema.

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no lie I can't resist this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9BbUqHrWFI

watchin pretty woman its p good

cocktail

I'm watching Dirty Dancing and I forgot that Baby dumps a pitcher of water on that dickhead preppy waiter who is a creep to her older sister because he tries to give her his copy of The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand

It deos noteve nbring teh funney!!!1!!1!

ladies and germs, I give you I Love Everything, circa 2004.

The halcyon is past, the decline palpable.

My palps discern no such cline.

I like Dirty Dancing.

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Crazy thing about this image is that it appears to go faster the more you stare at it.

Pretty Woman sucks, Ghost is lame, and I dgaf abt Titanic

Dirty Dancing shines like a diamond among all these turds

when i finally got around to seeing titanic a few years ago i thought it was actually pretty good tbh. haven't seen dirty dancing but i can't imagine ever wanting to rewatch the other two.

Pretty Woman sucks, Ghost is lame, and I dgaf abt Titanic

Dirty Dancing shines like a diamond among all these turds

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otfm how is this even a question

Otm. Dirty Dancing by a million miles.

Titanic plays in the first half as a predictable period romance, then it flips over into epic with a slight suggestion of horror. It's OK enough as such BIG films go. I might think about watching it again in a decade or so. If I'm bored.

Ghost is schlocky nonsense that had a few laughs here and there to partly redeem it. Pretty Woman just sounds very bad, so I will never see it.

Dirty Dancing sounds like it might be fun schlock, but I've never seen it.

Pretty Woman is the only one of these I’ve seen more than once (my sister wore the VHS out during our teen years) and, I dunno, I guess its kind of a guilty pleasure. I credit Hector Elizondo and Ralph Bellamy’s supporting work for most of the affection I have towards it.

Are we comparing these films on their entertainment value or on their class politics?

On both axes, Dirty Dancing reigns supreme. James Cameron is only capable of feigning outrage at injustice; in all of his films, he fetishizes it. And as for Pretty Woman, well, it just scrubs sex work of its exploitative dimension.

In Dirty Dancing, it is the proletariat Patrick Swayze who wins in the end, exposing the shallow prejudices of the resort members, especially Baby’s father. And he doesn’t have to die for this either. In that movie, liberation is thinkable.

*proletarian

i'm pretty sure poster "c taylor" in 2004 was not asking us to compare these films on their class politics, and i'll respond in their spirit.

dirty dancing is an incredible movie born of the specificity of its setting and the joy of watching two young people who are in insanely good shape dance and have sex. it's unimpeachable.

But it’s also a true indictment of the prejudices of the upper class. Emotionally, it really does side with the workers. These other movies can’t say that.

Emotionally and aesthetically. This seems to be the important lens for these three films, which all touch on class issues more directly than the vast majority of hollywood movies.

completely agree, there is for sure a class element to dirty dancing that is much more coherent than something like pretty woman which does not seem to present a realistic take on sex work

treesh my dude do you ever just like, have fun?

I also think it’s a fun movie with great music and that jennifer grey has great on-screen chemistry with patrick swayze

Forgot ghost was in this poll too. I’ve never actually seen that one.

if you want a serious defense of titanic, dave kehr was a fan

https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/archives-titanic-fantastic-voyage-article-1.2017563

rewatched Titanic yesterday & you really get the vibe that Cameron secretly wishes there was an irl real sinking ship disaster with real ppl in peril that he could have filmed in real time. For the final, what, HOUR it seems like he put everyone in this movie through absolute living hell to get the “verite” he wanted

Also i realized that I really do not enjoy this movie? The technical stuff is impressive but everything is so overwrought and beaten into the ground ,
the romance is whatever, idk

i love so much other Cameron from this era but this one is kind of a miss for me

Still amazes me how an American film released in fuckin 1987 got away with an abortion without regret.

huh?

oh Dirty Dancing

abortion subplot in Titanic would've been great tho

Rewatched this recently with the kids (15 & 10 year old daughters), which was probably the right way to watch it. It's technically amazing and I liked it more than I thought I would, but it's all about the production. Winslet seemed awkward in it? I can't figure out if it's the character or if she's just not the right fit. The kids loved it, my 15 year old was wiping tears away when Leo was freezing to death.

We watched Dirty Dancing a year ago and it holds up rather well. They would probably like Ghost, I haven't seen it since watching it in the theater as a kid.

No desire to rewatch Pretty Woman, which I liked as a kid but I don't think I want the kids to see it. When I was in college a friend of mine had a younger sister and the family liked to joke about how when she was little (7 or 8 maybe) someone asked her what she wanted to be when she grew up and she said "a hooker!," because Pretty Woman was her favorite movie.

I rewatched Pretty Woman and enjoyed it way more now than I ever did as a crabby cynical teenager.

And yeah Winslet seems uncomfortable, or something. I agree!

my ranking is Dirty Dancing, then Pretty Woman, then by a long margin way down the list Ghost i guess and Titanic at the bottom of the ocean where it can stay

i think theres a pretty good period romance in titanic if it were set on yer standard blue riband- cameron absolutely loses interest in all else once the iceberg looms.

the first half of titanic is a better effort than the whole of gangs of new york, for instance

dirty dancing has magic and finishes huge but the subplot is mush altogether

ghost is a string of sketches held together by charisma

pretty woman kinda holds its own i think?

I rewatched Pretty Woman and enjoyed it way more now than I ever did as a crabby cynical teenager.

And yeah Winslet seems uncomfortable, or something. I agree!

my ranking is Dirty Dancing, then Pretty Woman, then by a long margin way down the list Ghost i guess and Titanic at the bottom of the ocean where it can stay

oops double post sry

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