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what is your favorite way of making bread? i got a bread machine for christmas and made my first batch this morning - nothing special, just a multigrain from a box.

maura, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

anyone who even TRIES to make a yeast infection joke is so dead.

maura, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I admit my favorite way is to have someone else to do it for me. I am such the parasite of capitalism.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Gosh different TYPES of BRED? I got asked to SLICE a loaf of BRED today and I did not do a good job. They were all very fat and uneven slices and did not toast well. I think good ideas would be ADDING GARLICK cos I haf heard of a strange beautiful recipe called GARLIC BRED. Did it smell nice Maura?

Sarah, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

When it beeps to say you can put stuff in, put in a WHOLE LOT of chopped-up fresh herbs. Like, a lot. Especially dill.

Douglas, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I make really good bread, don't used boxed ones cos they aren't as good. I make excellent cinnamon bread, but I don't have the recipe on me (I need it to remember how hot it gets cooked at). Email me and I'll post it later, it's really wicked good.

There are lots of books you can get about bread machine-based breadmaking. A lot of the better recipes will involve using the dough cycle and then cooking it in a traditional oven, though.

Ally, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I don't know any bread recipes off the top of my head, but Douglas is right: you can do a lot by just adding things during the 'nut' cycle. A woman I know used to make a killer walnut/onion/mushroom bread, which I've never been able to replicate, but I threw walnuts and dried onion in and it was delicious. Sunflower seeds are really good. Also olives.

Caroline Sibley, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

A teacher at my school had her own recipe for making bread, and at the end of term she would get some of her class to cook it and give chunks of it out to the rest of the school. It was absolutely revolting - it tasted more like fish, everytime it was made. Does anyone know how the fuck this is possible?

Chris Lyons, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I got a bread machine for Xmas, too, Maura! I LOVE MY BREAD MACHINE! I love it I love it I love it! Just add ingredients close the lid hit the button. Add extry things when it beeps if you're up for a challenge. There should be more food machines catering to the lazy- but-not-as-lazy-as-Ned contingent of cooks like myself. Why can't there be soup machines? Roast machines? Salad machines? Tiramisu machines? Jell-O machines? Omelette machines! Grr...I'm hungry already!

Last week I made a simple chocolate bread that was absolutely decadent (pace MST3K fans) when smeared with honey-roasted peanut butter and raspberry preserves.

Michael Daddino, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Re: the fish-smelling bread. Sounds to me like somebody didn't clean or store their cookware properly.

Michael Daddino, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Cinnamon bread:

Dough:
1/2 cup milk
1/4 cup sugar
2 eggs
1/8 cup water
1/4 cup butter
1/2 tsp salt
2 cups flour
2 tsp yeast

Filling:
Lots of cinnamon
Lots of sugar

Recipe:
Put all the dough ingredients in the machine in order listed. It helps if you cut the butter into little squares. Put on dough cycle. When finished, hand roll it so that it's kind of flat. Now take a little bowl, like what you'd put cereal in (not Friday-type what you put cereal in though) and fill that halfway with sugar and cinnamon, adjusting for how you like it best. Now spread that mixture all over the top of flattened dough. Now roll topped dough from one end to the other, like a jelly roll. Then bake in oven at 350F for 20- 25 minutes. You can make icing, if you like that, really quickly by just mixing some confectioner's sugar with whole milk (adjust sugar level to taste) and then drizzling on top but it's not necessary.

Ally, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

If you can make banana bread, I will seek and find you (and yer bread, duh!). :-)

helenfordsdale, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm not usually puritanical, but for me the point of making bread is making it, which means the kneading and the seeing it through the proving, rather than the putting stuff in and letting it happen route. BUT this sun-dried tomato bread is v good and easy, and I suspect would be adaptable for a bread-maker?

1lb flour, 1tsp caster sugar, pinch salt, 1 sachet (7g) easy-blend yeast , 10 fl oz tepid water, 2 oz butter, 1 285g jar sun-dried tomatoes (in oil). Drain the oil off the tomatoes and roughly chop up (I do it in food processor) and add to the dough mix after the first proving (or at the beep in a machine I spose), using a little extra oil if the dough is too dry.

Ellie, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The point of bread is in the eating! I knead bread like I knead a whole in my head.

Sir Eatmore B. Read, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i heart the psychotic bread-chef in anthony bourdain's kitchen confidential

mark s, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Bourdain apparently has done a deal with the devil to get a cooking show on the Food Network. Maybe the first episode is all about how to kill troll-like chefs with the name 'Emeril.'

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

mark s, me too. Adam Last-name-unknown sounds like my kind of twisted genius. Bread is too much like science for me to enjoy making it though.

chris, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

two years pass...
FEED HER

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago) link

FEED THE THREAD

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:14 (twenty years ago) link

Mmmmm bread. I have a banana at home that will be black, wizened and RIPE for making squidgy lovely banana bread with when I get home on Sunday evening. Which isn't proper bread with yeast and that but what do I care? Life's too boring to sit around waiting for food to prove itself.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:20 (twenty years ago) link

I worked as a bread baker for several summers - at work at 1 in the a.m. to start the dough. Each batch made 75 loaves, and at the height of the summer, when the tourists were buying up bread like hotcakes, we'd crank out hundreds and hundreds of loaves. I got really buff from carrying around 100lb sacks of flour and huge iron pans and tubs of dough.

I made bread a couple of times at home after that, but one or two measly little loaves for all that work seemed pretty sad. I kind of agree, though, that there's something to doing the process from scratch. Kneading and pounding dough is so tactile. Bread machines are definitely a boon though. I haven't tried one myself, but now when I visit my mom, the smell of fresh-baked bread meets me at the door.

What I wonder about with those bread machines, though, is does the bread always turn out the same? Cuz yeast is a very sensitive fellow -- we used to adjust our recipes slightly depending on the weather. Sometimes you had to add a little extra flour or a little extra sweetness.

Yeast kind of intrigues me. What is it? An animal? A plant? Just an organism?

Maria D., Friday, 4 June 2004 11:38 (twenty years ago) link

It's an alien fungus programmed for pleasure!

Dude I restarted this thread because I've just started making bread and it's DEAD EASY! Like chris, I thought it was too hard, or scientific or something. All this talk about "bread machines," as if a mere human stood no chance of creating anything worthwhile. But we don't NEED to be ultra-humang, we have ALIEN SPORES that do the work!! Honestly I made fucking gorgeous bread with about thirty minutes work TOTAL (plus rising and baking). I just don't understand what bread machines are for. People with tiny twigs for arms? I mean I just made the most basic of recipes. I bet there are other things to do. Use fresh yeast, for instance, instead of the fake quick-bake stuff. I could have let it rise a lot longer, I guess. But this is refinement! Twiddling! Now, I Love Everything - if you show me your twiddles I'll show you mine!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 June 2004 12:24 (twenty years ago) link

Well, Tracer Hand. It's like anything in that you can make it as simple or complicated as you want. Our french bread recipe was just flour, water, salt and yeast. When in a hurry and when we had a lack of oven space, we'd put the French loaves on pans, but when we wanted to make them extra special, we'd roll them out longer and wrap them in cloth to rise and then bake them directly in the oven, without a pan, just some corn meal strewed in there to keep them from sticking.

I found that very white-flour, gluteny recipes benefited from more rising and punching down (but always being sensitive to what the consisitency was, not overworking it), whereas darker less gluteny doughs like Russian Black, couldn't take as much rising without losing the little elasticity they had.

Then there's sourdough. We had a culture that was years old. Sometimes we'd feed it a piece of orange. We refreshed it daily with water and more flour and kept it in the walk-in.

Maria D., Friday, 4 June 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

but always being sensitive to what the consisitency was, not overworking it

With my ultra-basic recipe I "punched it down" after it rose the first time.. but I couldn't resist pushing and pulling it some more, kneading it a little bit.. is this what you mean? Should you never knead it again after you've let it rise?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 June 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

Ha TH, I made some last week too and yes, it was very easy, big batch, split into two, one loaf of bacon and cheese bread and one of red onion bred = nice, if slightly undercooked.

not Vicky (Vicky), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

bacon and cheese bread = no need for any other food ever

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

AFAIK you shouldn't knead it after it has risen. The punching down is just to let the air out of it, so to speak, so it can rise again. You can kind of tell when you've overworked a dough cuz it gets sort of rubbery or tough. sometimes it won't hang together as well anymore.

maria d., Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

i kept adding flour to my hands so they wouldn't get sucked into the dough like quicksand and i got paranoid that i was upsetting some delicate balance but it didn't matter at all

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 June 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

i haven't made proper bread for a while; i made some flat breads when ed and suzy were round a few weeks ago but it's months since i made a loaf.

i too have never understood the idea of bread machines.

my mum makes like dozens of kinds of fantastic bread. i will get some ideas from her and post them here.

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 6 June 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago) link

toby that would rule!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 June 2004 19:23 (twenty years ago) link

the email has been sent. i have always been partial to olive bread, myself - just chuck in loads of halved pitted olives.

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 6 June 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

Tracer, the cheese and onion bread was really really easy too! Just, after the second proving, knock it back and kind of knead in lumps pf port salut and fried up lardons. Easy as, and you end up with random bits scattered throughout the bread.
And the onion bread was great toasted with scrambled egg.

chris (chris), Monday, 7 June 2004 09:54 (twenty years ago) link

my mum says:

>Bread Ideas:
>
>olive and sage
>basil, parmesan and pine nut
>parmesan, black pepper, oregano
>bacon and rosemary
>walnut and poppy seed
>walnut and raisin ( fantastic with cheese!)
>parmesan and walnut (good for rolls)
>pesto
>sun-dried tomato,grated cheddar, herbes de Provence, pine nuts potato
>bread brown bread with oats, sunflower seeds and poppy seeds (good
>basic loaf)
>
>If you want details of quantities for any of the above let me know. Can
>also
>recommend stuffed foccaccia recipe from River Café Green.

she also sent me a recipe for her (fantastic) chocolate bread; it's a scan though so i'll have to see if i can find somewhere to host it.

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago) link

does this work for anyone other than me?!

http://www.ma.ic.ac.uk/~tsg/Chocbread.jpg

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:17 (twenty years ago) link

oh shit - sorry for the stupidly sized pic (if anyone can even see it...)

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:18 (twenty years ago) link

It's enormo but present. Mmmmm chocolate bread.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:28 (twenty years ago) link

Man, that looks good.

I've never made my own bread. :( Elizabeth David's English Bread and Yeast Cookery keeps tempting me to, tho': it's all history! and eighteenth-century recipes!

cis (cis), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:40 (twenty years ago) link

toby that rules, I haven't seen this til now!

okay so I got another question wot I believe to be pursuant to our investigations. How do you get a nice CRISP on the crust?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 00:39 (twenty years ago) link

(And here's the "I show you mine" part: PUMPKIN OIL!! still just a theory though)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 00:40 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.webridge.com/poptart/small-6.jpg

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

There should be a show called "Monster Kitchen."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

Ciabatta:

http://www.supras.nl/images/Overheated.JPG

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

I used to make about 3 loaves of bread every week for 2 years. I HATE bread machines. Maybe everyone I know who has ever had a bread machine just couldn't work theirs right, but every piece of bread I have ever had from one had a really dense consistency and had a really thick crust.

Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

Tracer, I've heard that sprinkling water on the top creates crust but I'm not too sure about that. egg glaze would but not too much I suppose (and not the right type either)

I'll look it up

chris (chris), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

i've heard the water thing, too. in fact i think i've done it successfully before.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 08:19 (twenty years ago) link

maybe spray it with an atomiser?

chris (chris), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 08:21 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
I admit my favorite way is to have someone else to do it for me. I am such the parasite of capitalism.

Now I admit I still think this. Regardless, today, in the midst of my mania for cooking various things, I have made my first ever loaf o' bread:

http://static.flickr.com/96/225608318_6c4faf8b1b.jpg

I intentionally chose to make something simple, so this is nothing more than your basic flour/water/yeast/salt prep, though with some fresh parsley as well from my haul on Thursday. It's cooling right now so I'll have to see how good it is or not later!

I can however say that I did this without a food processor -- kneading all the way, doesn't take that long really! -- or a bread machine -- used a baking stone in my oven. Like making one's own homemade tomato sauce, there's a joy in this kind of prep work. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 August 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

You tied your hair back while making it, I hope!!!

Concerned (JTS), Saturday, 26 August 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

It looks like a murder weapon.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 26 August 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

You tied your hair back while making it, I hope!!!

It's organic, you see.

It looks like a murder weapon.

If it was Irish soda bread, probably.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 August 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned, that looks great! You might try scoring the top of your next loaf with a sharp knife so it can bloom up more as it bakes.

I love to knead bread by hand - it goes from a sticky mess to smooth and lively in 10-15 minutes. I can recommend replacing part of the water with a bit of olive oil, especially for rustic loaves. The dough is really nice to handle and the oil adds flavor and texture to the bread. Casuistry taught me the yeasty flavor adding properties of the magical bread sponge. Mix up 1 cup flour, a tsp of yeast, 1 cup of water in your bread bowl and leave it in a cool place overnight (or for at least 4 hours), then use the resulting bubbly mass to make your bread.

Jaq (Jaq), Sunday, 27 August 2006 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link

You might try scoring the top of your next loaf with a sharp knife so it can bloom up more as it bakes.

I tried doing that but clearly didn't cut deep enough. Another time.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 August 2006 03:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned is on a cooking and baking bender. The bread looks great; I'm impressed!

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Sunday, 27 August 2006 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link


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