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how does one a) hold a cup of coffee, while both b) standing up and c) doing the crossword puzzle? i am stymied, i don't think it can be done.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

can not be done solo without some sort of tool

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

What about riding a bike, eating a sandwich AND having really floppy hair?

adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

how does one a) hold a cup of coffee, while both b) standing up and c) doing the crossword puzzle?

sic

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

...but with cups of coffee.

truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

answers (for righties):
a) coffee between left thumb and index finger, quarter-folded paper between left index and middle fingers, pen in right hand
b) coffee between right thumb and index finger, pen between right index and middle fingers, balanced upon distal digit (i dunno frum biology) of right ring finger, quarter-folded paper in left hand

(left elbow hooked around pole, if you must)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost !!!

This is only really feasible at the expense of hogging an upright grabby-pole, and it can only really be done during the latter half of the week. You'll need an Arts section thick enough to fold down into a fairly rigid quarter-size block. You'll also need a pen drippy enough to mark without much pressure being applied. Hold the coffee in your left hand, then extend your thumb and use it to squinch the paper in. Holding the paper at an appropriate angle will mean rotating the coffee to a non-upright angle, so you're going to either need to drink a bunch of coffee straight-off or invest in a travel mug (better for paper-support squinching). Extend that paper/coffee arm to one side of an upright grabby-pole. Hold the pen in the other hand and wrap around from the other side of the pole. Totally awkward, and possibly inviting a lawsuit when you accidentally twitch out and splash hot coffee all over someone's face, but it's doable. Alternately, if you think you're super-awesome, you can surf freehand using the same technique, and count on you lightning-fast reflexes to get the pen-hand to a pole in case of sudden jolts.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Why is there no Ask Nabisco thread?

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh right, I forgot that other option -- left hand with quartered paper, right hand holding coffee + pen. (You can also use a standard coffee grip but then just slide the pen between your middle and ring finger knuckles, which, with a drippy enough pen, will give you childlike but legible print.)

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Drinking cup of hot coffee, smoking cigarette, AND talking on cell phone/reading book. Maybe my fingers are just too short to hold coffee & cig in same hand and still extend far enough for me to get my face in there and take a drag?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Now that I think of it, my brother kind of overhands the coffee mug, so that he's putting nose to knuckle when he tips it up. That might work.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

if you choose b, of course, you can palm the pole with your left hand, and balance the paper upright between left thumb and index finger

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

if there is one thing i will not do, it's use drippy pens with crossword puzzles. a large part of my strategy involves "shadowing" certain letters i'm guessing about in a faint spidery script that is only possble with standard ballpoints.

i have just physically re-enacted all of these suggestions and i can't get any of them to work with both a full cup of coffee and enough purchase/bear-down power for a ballpoint pen. the travel mug sounds like the most sensible idea so far, taking the angle of coffee cup and related spillage concerns out of the equation entirely.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

c) paper in left hand, lidless cup and pen in right hand, transferring cup lid to firm bite grip before pen is employed

(professional subway-surfer in closed car)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

d) excellent visual memory

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

how does one a) hold a cup of coffee, while both b) standing up and c) doing the crossword puzzle? i am stymied, i don't think it can be done.

Simple: the crossword puzzle is printed on the coffee cup. Left hand holds coffee cup/crossword, right hand holds pen.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Laurel, yours is a trap -- I was going to recommend learning to smoke without taking the cigarette out of your mouth (I think they teach this in mechanic school), but the coffee scuttles that. Still, where are you trying to combine all these things? I can't think of many places where you can smoke and read a book at the same time outside of your house, in which case the answer is: buy a bigger table?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/History/CrosswordMug.big.jpg

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Seriously?? This seems like a frequent dilemma of mine: you're out running errands, in no particular hurry, and you pick up a coffee for the trip. You quickly realize that that cup of coffee really calls for a cigarette, but then you're just standing around watching the grass grow in the meanwhile. Enter book! And enter problem.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Or you can keep walking, of course, with both hands full, and still be actually accomplishing something you need to do anyway (ie, get where you're going)...but then the phone rings! Square one. Plus sometimes while you're walking you tip the cup back and then misjudge the next step and end up WEARING that coffee.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

This is why espresso was invented!!

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

it's occurred to me that coffee vendors could sell long, thin tubes of coffee, outfitted with a bottled-water style sport-top, which could be easily grasped by the hand that holds the newspaper, decimating spillage incidence and liberating the hands with one stroke

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Umm, yeah, I would just keep walking, with both hands occupied. I wouldn't answer the phone. Unless it was an emergency, in which case I'd just wedge the cigarette in with the coffee hand and ignore it for the duration of the call.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm having slight flashbacks to that whole "gee, Mitch, you must be the unluckiest guy in Africa" thing.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, cigarette goes in most.. distal?? knuckles of coffee-holding hand -- very woodward and bernstein -- just after thrusting book under armpit of same side, pluck phone out unhurriedly, that one is easy.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

XP to Tracer: Really the best sol'n is for someone to hurry up and invent electronic paper, so you can think or speak your answers to the sheet and have them filled in. No-handed!

XP to Nitsuh: Haha. No, I just want what I want WHEN I want it, and I treasure the smoke/drink/read combination.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

The last time I got a coffee (okay okay, tea) to go, I got about 15 feet and had to find a place to sit down. I think I've gotten all anti-multitasking to a serious degree... I like watching the grass grow! I'm in awe of you guys and your skills - but I too had them at one time. They grow rusty with disuse: a warning.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

What about when it's raining and you've got your umbrella? What then?

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU THINK YOU'RE JOKING. Umbrella wedged between crook of elbow and crook of neck. Cigarette in same hand as that elbow, coffee in the free hand for less spillage.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

No, I didn't think I was joking at all, Laurel. Well, maybe a little bit.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought this thread maybe, just maybe, was going to be about land surveying.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Or when ILX UK goes on those architecture walks? Or is the right word there "transect"?

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Drinking cup of hot coffee, smoking cigarette, AND talking on cell phone/reading book. Maybe my fingers are just too short to hold coffee & cig in same hand and still extend far enough for me to get my face in there and take a drag?

Toned-up thumb, ring finger and pinkie hold coffee, cigarette is between index and middle finger, book is in other hand but toned-up thumb, ring finger and pinkie hold coffee, phone is in other hand cradled between palm and pinkie/ring finger, cigarette is between index and middle finger. Since you have no intention of listening to all the jabber of the caller, you take a drag whenever you please and say, "Oh really?" when you return the phone to your ear.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought it was going to be about achieving some kind of public transit zen so having someone's ass in your face or backpack in your ribs isn't quite so crappy.
xpost

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, I know I'm already ridiculous but never let it be said that I shy away from ridiculousness in the pursuit of handy solutions.

M White, your positioning makes perfect sense EXCEPT in Fig 1 my fingers 2 & 3 are almost too short to project past the side of coffee cup, so I have to really contort to get my mouth on the cig. I do it this way anyway, but I was hoping for a better solution. In Fig 2 involving the phone, you're still making perfect sense EXCEPT I'm always afraid the lit cigarette is going to end up in my hair when the wind blows.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Clearly I shouldn't be allowed out of the house. Good night!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

You clearly need servants, Laurel.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Lend her your Jeeves, Mike.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Dudes, it's like surfing. You don't need to hold onto anything if you can rock back and forth, heel to toe, and shift your weight from your front leg to your back leg.

Steve Shasta

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

haha!!!11 i think i have found it!! i will report back tomorrow once experimentation is complete. thwack the paper (gently) right down onto the coffee cup! left hand holds cup, cup supports paper, right hand free to mark with as much bearing-down as is required. and if any JOSTLERS (see what i did there, eagle-eyes?) noodge you just one noodge too far, the absorption qualities of standard issue newsprint will soak it up INVISIBLY, and who cares about what's on the other side of the page, anyway. granted, this solution requires good access to a pole, either to lean on or to crook an arm around, but this was always going to be a problem, and if we all take steve shasta's advice it may be unnecessary.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't even think of splashing me with that coffee, Tracer Hand!

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Lend her your Jeeves, Mike.

Mike!? Anyway, therein lies the problem. I haven't got a Jeeves yet.

As to the original question, according to some, the solution lies in ousting a pregnant woman from her seat.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Get a car.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Hm, sounds dangerous.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Tracer, yes, that method works -- especially if the coffee's short enough to hold with a fingers-beneath, thumb-on-top grip -- but you're forgetting something: weren't you trying to drink the damned coffee? This way you have to fiddle to earn every sip, which I was figuring wouldn't really solve your problem as much as you were looking for.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, I'm a little worried about that, but my hypothesis is that with pen in right hand and paper atop coffee, simply picking up the paper would allow one to sip.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

That kind of idealism is fine when you're young, Tracer, but sooner or later you have to grow up and live in the real world.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

In fact, one could hold paper in RIGHT hand, with pen, to peruse and ponder, while sipping coffee with LEFT hand, and only assemble "coffee table" (thwack) when actual writing is required. Though such moves may be better suited for the end of the week.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/051103/juggling-coffee.gif

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 February 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps you could get some expert help from, say, N4omi W4tts' juggling coach.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 2 February 2006 00:14 (eighteen years ago) link

This isnt a transit thing, but how does one drink booze, smoke a cig, and play gamecube/xbox etc all at the same time? IT CANT BE DONE. Unless I wanna like, ash all over the controller or my lap maybe.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2006 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link

My usual problem: beer, cigarette, dog's leash, bag of dog shit. Also dog on end of leash. Usually I've got the cigarette between left index and middle fingers with that hand's remaining digits holding the beer from the top of the can. Right hand's got the leash handle (extendo-dealie) with the top of the shit bag woven between the top two fingers. Surely there's a more efficient way to do this.

adam (adam), Thursday, 2 February 2006 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

girl with dumb tattoo behind left ear who brought bike on crowded rush-hour l train this morning: please kill yourself.

that is all.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 February 2006 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Redd - I could, but they'd just CGI it anyway!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

girl with dumb tattoo behind left ear who brought bike on crowded rush-hour l train this morning: please kill yourself.

You need BIKE RACKS on the front of the train. Like the bike racks on the front of our buses.

I am brushing on my transit & bus riding skills as I'm imprisoned in a cast for at least the next month & can't drive. Heh, so I have been doing the "I'm in a walking cast but can't walk and take 10 minutes to get up the bus stairs" thing. (Next time, my left leg is going down, then I could hobble to the privacy of my car.)

lyra (lyra), Friday, 3 February 2006 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

non-smoker non-phoner roffling here.

and coffee-drinking is illegal on nyc transit, you anarchist.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2006 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i have long fingers so this is no problem. but re: phone thing, don't you just cradle it between shoulder and ear anyway and no-hands it? maybe yr. cell is too small for this? (haha also this is what freaky hands-free headsets are for.

also, with book, you can keep cig in book hand (for me my book hand is my left). thumb keeping pages seperated, pinky & ring supporting back cover, very base of middle and index (which jut outward) supporting front cover, cig between middle and index. then you pull yr. hand tight, forcing covers together (& keeping thumb in place to hold page) and take a drag of cig, then open out hand again.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 3 February 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Ooh, I like that second one w/ the book, Sterling. Still have to try my brother's way with the overhand grip on rim of coffee cup, maybe while I'm running around this wkend.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 3 February 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Right hand's got the leash handle (extendo-dealie)

Lose the extending leash and get one with an ordinary handle that you can loop around your wrist. I hate those extender leashes for exactly that reason. Also because the dog keeps getting tangled up in things, which means you have to put your beer down.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a dog leash with a clip handle, which would be ideal here. Like the middle leash in this photo (black nylon with the hand holding it):

http://www.islandtailwaggers.com/leash.html

So when I'm holding too much stuff, I just clip the end of the leash around my bag handle or a belt loop or anything.

lyra (lyra), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Leashing the 65lb pit bull to my belt loop could make things interesting.

adam (adam), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Leashing the 65lb pit bull to my belt loop could make things interesting.

Interesting would be one word for it.

lyra (lyra), Saturday, 4 February 2006 02:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"65lb pit bull" is adam's name for his penis.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 4 February 2006 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link

haha wait, sorry, that's MY name for adam's penis.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 4 February 2006 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link


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