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anyone ordering ounces of MXE from chinese grey market suppliers? any fans of psychoactive phenethylamine chemical derivatives? worried about buying blotter soaked with NBOMes instead of lsd, or FAR WORSE pmma in your pills?

this stuff isn't new (coming up on ten years since i ordered my first doses of amt off the internet) but there seems to be so much new stuff worth looking at. and easy to find: i just picked up a half gram of 2ce.

so, what's up?

dylannn, Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

well, what are the new-era psychedelics that are more in the buttery gravy family? b/c i can't even do more than one cup of coffee w/o flying off the walls. thinking that amphetamine-derivatives are just gonna send me over the edge. and i'm too old for tikhals?

anyway, i'm not helping you at all. rad on, into the new world! report back, let me live vicariously through you at least. don't disappoint or i will be so upset. find out whatever the drugs possibly appropriate for punishingly vata-constituted old ppl might be?

dell (del), Monday, 5 March 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

Before we left, Ann brought out a large, frosty pitcher of strawberry lemonade. I had to remind myself that this was Ann Shulgin—the woman who pioneered the practice of MDMA psychotherapy—who in this very house, perhaps in this room, used MDMA and 2C-B to treat everything from nitrous-oxide addiction to demonic possession (or, technically, postexorcism demonic harassment), often with patients finding themselves cured in ways that years of conventional talk therapy could have only begun to remedy. I sipped some of her lemonade, gazed past their Huichol yarn paintings through a window that perfectly framed the two-humped Mount Diablo, and sighed. “I hope you don’t mind my using my bare hands,” Ann said as she dropped additional ice cubes into my glass.

dell (del), Monday, 5 March 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

I used to see a psychotherapist who had done a ton of these drugs. She was cool, but in all honesty I don't think she possessed the requisite insight to expediently heal my neuroses. And I used to work with a woman whose middle-aged husband was pretty immersed in the resrch chemical scene and was involved in some "men's group" that took ayahuasca on a regular basis. I dunno. I never met the dude, but my by proxy impression is that these drugs are much like any other... in large part dependent on the person partaking. Not that she and he weren't lovely people, but... eh, whatever

dell (del), Monday, 5 March 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

like i think ayahuasca is amazing and a genuinely healing medicine, don't get me wrong. i think that so much of contemporary maladies are potentially addressed by ayahuasca. garden-variety depression-anxiety are largely due to problems with the subtle body, which plant admixtures like that are more than capable of addressing, if the literature is to be believed

dell (del), Monday, 5 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

anyways young ppl who are appeased of the right set and setting should take as many drugs as possible. anything to loosen the glue. after a while the hardhat guy in the krazy glue commercials loses his charm. after the honeymoon period. with the hardhat guy. in the krazy glue commercials.

at least i didn't invoke tom bosley garbage bag references

anyway people should just take drugs and read Jacques Vallée and ilx backwaters. "℞" dell. even pete kember would approve

dell (del), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

not a lot of buttery gravy ones, though, especially in the psychedelic phenethylamine family, which has all the good new ones. but... is acid buttery gravy? i guess i'm not totally sure what it means.

maybe DOB? DOC?

(with 2.4 mg) This is what I might call an archetypical psychedelic. Everything is there in spades, with few if any of the subtle graces, the `gentle images' and `gentle fantasies' of the 2-carbon phenethylamines. This is the works. There are visuals, and there are interpretive problems with knowing just where you really are. The place where nothing makes sense, and yet everything makes sense. I have just slept for a few hours, and now I am awake and it has been eighteen hours, and there is a lot still going on, although I have a relaxed, good feeling. Anyone who uses this had better have 24 hours at their disposal.

dylannn, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

mean old UK government and their 'temporary control orders'.

Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Friday, 7 June 2013 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

Seems cool: https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/b5s9il/chlorobutanol_trip_report/

JoeStork, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 22:54 (five years ago) link

TL,DR: took a centuries old hepatotoxic chemical and it was unimpressive

a person after my own heart

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 22:56 (five years ago) link


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