my furst detroit techno albumm

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No UFO's by M500 and Rock To The Beat by Reese are both alternate mixes.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 02:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

One of the weird things about detroit comps is that they seem to split into three distinct camps: atkins, may and saunderson influenced.

So the transmat comp gets you loads of wispy, melancholy string tracks (naturally, it's on may's label) while stuff on UR or associated with octave one is pounding saunderson-esque stuff.

if anything argues against a unitary "detroit techno" it's the fact that you can't find a single "detroit" comp. that represents all three strands. besides, i think you might as well skip the "classic" first-wave stuff if you want a detroit primer because it's all quite a bit underwhelming at first anyway.

i think the best detroit summation is juan atkin's mastermix vol. 1, esp. since it doesn't lean too heavily on any one style or other and stretches out by letting less-classifiable stuff like rob hood and dj assault in the mix (also lets euros and chicago artists in).

still, i think it's easier to get your head around than trying to struggle all those single-artist comps. it also helps you hear the forbidden and denied detroit-microhouse connection (though if you can find it 4 hero's "deepest shade of techno" comp. makes a really really good job of connecting dots between detroit and say, playhouse or perlon).

also check the "warp 10+1 : influences" comp.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 02:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

The KMS comp that I mentioned above has all 3 strands on it-4 if you count Derrick Carter. But maybe you mean another kind of comp. I just noticed that I listed Rhythim Is Rhythim on that album, but didn't write down the track:Beyond The Dance

Scott Seward, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 02:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Finds Faces & Phases--you're right)

Hmmm, I think I like the Mayday Rock to the Beat more! Cheers, I would have lost that otherwise.

While I'm being a trainspotting wanker, one other crucial out-of-print (and strangely underappreciated) record: Underground Resistance, Revolution for Change.

(Yes, Deepest Shade of Techno is great! Haven't played that in a while, will now listen for "forbidden and denied" microhouse connection)

First Wave not underwhelming at all in my book. I still listen to that shit more than any other techno. And I'm not a purist about it, either.

Ben Williams, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 02:47 (twenty-one years ago) link


scott - yeah that comp. sounds incredible though i haven't ever heard or seen it. i wanted to skirt the issue of out of print comps (failed miserably since i brought up the 4 hero comp.)

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The reason that you do not see those kinds of compilations is because there is not a singular Detroit Techno community. There are a whole lot of little cliques and clusters of people who all kinda know each other, and they all just do their thing independently. The different Camps all have different social and economic backgrounds, and have different outlooks on it. The outside world sees Detroit as a single genre, when really it is just a bunch of isolated camps trying to make their thing happen.

Back in the day Detroit was much more of a community. The reason being that you had to be friends with everybody because you could not get information on running record labels and getting distribution, and engineering records from the web. You had to know everybody because the only way you could be down 15 years ago is by being involved with one of those three labels, Transmat, Metroplex, and KMS. That was it in Detroit, the whole world. The other thing too, back in thhe day you could not buy a little 500$ computer and be good to go for tracks, they all had to get along because they were all borrowing each others equipment so they could make tracks. There was a time when there was only one 909 between all the producers in Detroit, and it belonged to Kevin Saunderson.

As time passes, the politics have gotten worse and worse and a lot of people are at each others throats these days. There is a lot of infighting, and people not getting along. The DEMF was probably the worst thing that could have happened the the electronic music community in Detroit. It shattered whatever was left of the community, especially among the older black producers. It created a lot of bad feelings and distrust.

Basically, the reason you do not see a lot of cross over between the threads is because each of those threads are maintained by a different set of cliques who export to different sections of the dance market. Also, the dance market is so specialist these days, you need to stick to one particular sound, and represent that sound to its fullest.


Also, I think your recommendations are excellent, Vahid.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

PS If you like Recloose you need to hear his Jigsaw Music mix if you haven't. I think it's better than his album (which I was totally salivating for after that mix, then was weirdly underwhelmed by; I probably need to hear it again)

Ben Williams, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 03:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

i have virtually every album mentioned on this thread.

michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago) link


Well yay for you Michael!

For me Retro Techno is the one to plump for - if you can get hold of it!

It has a mix of Strings of Life - which overshadows the original by a long way and just gives you those feelings! Forget the original this beatless mix is the shiznit

Retro Techno has got all the other key tunes from the Belville 3 inc No Ufos, the original Reese baseline tune Just Another Chance. Clear etc.

There have been some super Detroit style Techno compilations - most of which mentioned upthread - esp the 4 hero compiled Deeper Shade of Techno. Incidentally there is a new compilation out on Irma compiled by Volcov which aims to follow in the Deeper Shade tradition - it is called "Soul in Motion" and is available from Vinyl Junkies in London. Well worth picking up if Detroit is your thing ?

Anyone on here remember "Virual Sex" on Buzz? Probably my fav ever techno compilation - came with 3d glasses and cover too! Got probably the best emotional techno tunes on all time on it inc At Les, Tedra, Shambala, Icon, Mystical Adventure- wicked!

Ben - Revolution for Change - yes! It has got "The Theory" on it by UR - how come no one ever talks about this tune which along with Hi Tec Jazz and Star Sailing got to be the best stuff they have done.

red, Friday, 4 April 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

three years pass...
nude photo 12" is maybe the best 12" i have ever bought (out of 50 or so)

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 6 November 2006 05:08 (seventeen years ago) link

when that whiny synth comes in after that split second of silence... OH MY GOD!@!!!!

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 6 November 2006 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

of course i am talking about 'the dance' which is better than 'nude photo' which is saying A LOT

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 6 November 2006 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.triviatribute.com/images4/stephenfurst4.jpg

timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 6 November 2006 07:03 (seventeen years ago) link

my faves are It Is What it Is and Drama

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 6 November 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link


flux trax (out of print but not impossible to find)
http://www.discogs.com/release/42195

true spirit
http://www.discogs.com/release/32293

Juan Atkins - 20 Years Metroplex: 1985 - 2005
http://www.discogs.com/release/441574

minerva estassi (minerva estassi), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

seventeen years pass...

So many MANY years later I decided to cook while listening to Infinti's "Skynet" and am awed at how well it's aged. Detroit Techno refined to a brittle, vaporous and lovely essence.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 27 April 2024 21:52 (one month ago) link

Speaking of aging well, the Aril Brikha Deeparture in Time LP on Transmat sounds as fresh today as it did 30-ish years ago.

henry s, Saturday, 27 April 2024 21:59 (one month ago) link

Oh yeah. I listened to that around Xmas after a long while and truly enjoyed it. I remember how anticipated that was before prior to its release.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 27 April 2024 22:11 (one month ago) link

*how that was prior to its release.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 27 April 2024 22:11 (one month ago) link

Both amazing albums ^^^^

Tim F, Sunday, 28 April 2024 01:22 (one month ago) link

Cheers for this revive. Soundtracked my whole weekend. Just the best music.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Sunday, 28 April 2024 22:54 (one month ago) link

The Aril Brikha album was new to me and I can't stop listening to it. Magnificent hi-hats.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:26 (one month ago) link


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