Ever regretted the purchase of a record?

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It happens quite frequently so I guess that you too guys have experienced the guilty feel of a miscalculated purchase. Being a perfectionist I hate when those things happen. Sadly I just bought Expresso II by alleged seminal progressive outfit GONG (we even had a cult magazine named in honor of that band here in Italy... sob!). For those who haven't heard it I'll just say that it could be the reason why most present-day critics dismiss progressive rock as an annoying form of mannerism. Pretentious beyond words, yet so dull. Besides it's the only record in which Glockenspiel is a key instrument!!!! I fear that I'll dream that accursed instrument one of these nights!!!

P.S. I love this e-zine but where are the reviews??

current top 5 record on my pad: J Mascis + the Fog "More Light" Throwing Muses "The Real Ramona" Papas Fritas "Buildings and Grounds" Les Savy Fav "Emor EP" La Crus "Dietro la curva del cuore"

P.S.2 Why don't you buy records via Amazon.de? (German version of the mother of all e-Malls) It's ways cheaper than anything in the UK...

Simona Oltolina, Wednesday, 24 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

I know what you mean re: Gong, luckily I found my Gong records on the street where somebody put them with the trash (true story). They were shite indeed. Of course in my lifetime I've bought some real stinkers, for instance "My Life in the Bush...whatever" by Eno & Byrne, "Heart of the Congo's" (shite reggae) and erm...when i was very young some records by Dire Straits. Nevertheless I've never regetted the purchase of a record more than: "Trout Mask Replica" by Captain Fartknocker, I felt such relief when I got rid of that record :)

Omar, Wednesday, 24 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

I think the record I've felt worse about buying (and I've regretted quite a few, but this was something else) was David Holmes _This Film's Crap, So Let's Slash the Seats_. Bought in Dundee on cassette, many years ago. I think what was so bad about it was not simply that the record was absolutely wretched, and that I really couldn't afford it at the time, but that I felt both angry and humiliated that I'd been taken in by whatever reviewer persuaded me to buy it and disappointed that whatever new form of great music I'd imagined would be waiting for me out there had turned out to be an illusion.

alex thomson, Wednesday, 24 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

ATDI - Relationship of Command. After the good word I heard for ev'yone else, I picked it up and it sounds like Steve Malkmus fronting RATM. Yuck.

There ARE a few purchases I've regretted, and I returned those. Then I kinda wished I didn't, so I just keep everything now, no matter how bad it is. Maybe my kids will think I'm cool if I own it.

JM, Wednesday, 24 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Bought a record from shitty local san francisco band "Ida" mistaking it for good and well known indie band "Ida". Sure it was only 1$ in a used bin, but still.

Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 24 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

  • McCarthy!!!!!! My second flipping indie purchase, and it was just so dire!!!! The worst late 80s indie musical cliches one can imagine, (jangly guitars, cheap organs, jumpy drums, crap cello+violin on the "thoughtful" songs!!!!) plus hilariously badly written right-on Socialist Worker style cliches!!!!
  • "Manhattan Shuffle" by Landscape!!!! "Wot, like the 'Einstien a Go Go' people?!??!?" Erm, I'm not entirely sure!!!! If they were, they had by this album somehow mutated into some horrible "poppy" early 80s proto-"boy band" with 80s squiggly keyboard sounds, out-of-tune vocals, sub-pub band "tunes", and a "recorded in me shed in a couple of hours!!!!" style production!!!!!!
  • Some dreadful "progressive" house record I've never actually bothered to listen to all the way through!!!!!! I must admit, I was fooled by this one when I saw this lying in a pile of bargain bin singles in a charity shop!!!! I think it was the "elevate your mind" and "higher plane" type title on the front that led me to think this might be some lost rave anthem!!!! I put it on and was assailed by the type of rubbish that in 1993 made "cheesy hardcore" seem an infinitely better proposition!!!! You know the drill- some inept "progressive" attempt to recapture the glory days of Chicago deep house: loads of piano stabs, terribly weedy string synths (usually doing some sort of high-note "hit" on the bar at the chorus, in the style of Soul II Souls' "Back to Life") and about 3 backing singers attempting a "gospel" style "choir"!!!

    Then the verse begins and the most insipid and melismatic voice ever starts intoning: "Mmmmm..Ahahahaarrggh... Peee-pulllll!!!!! Weee Gotta It Togeh-tha!!! Becaauusse the worrrllld..." (etc. Go on about how bad the world is for the entire flipping verse!!! Now it's time for the chorus...) "Sooo wee gotta get it togethaa-aa-aah!!!! Move yo- ourrr miinnd to a hhiiiggghhheer plaaa-haaiinnn-nn!!!!!!" At which point, I ripped the needle off the record, and put the single back in my collection, right at the top, as a permanent reminder to not be such a plank next time!!!!! (Still, I got U96's ace sicko Belgian hardcore tune "I Wanna Be A Kennedy!" at the same time, so it wasn't all bad!!!!)

Old Fart!!!!!

Old Fart!!!, Thursday, 25 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Umm.. I bought a No-Man album once on the basis of an NME interview that made the lead singer sound like the most interesting man in pop. Maybe he was, but unfortunately the records he made were dreadful.

Other bad buys: Joni Mitchell's 'The Hissing Of Summer Lawns'; the House of Love's 'An Audience With The Mind'; something by the Frames; Gram Parson's 'Grevious Angel' (don't hit me!)

And there are *dozens* of albums that sit there waiting to be given a second chance because I am such a sucker for 'reputation': Gene Clark's 'No Other'; Dexy's 'Don't Stand Me Down'; the Replacements' 'Let it Be'. Oh, I could go on and on. I should be more ruthless. Three plays and you

Nick, Thursday, 25 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Nick,

Get the Replacements 'Let it Be' right out of that stack and put it on, open a beer, turn up the volume, kick the cat off the sofa and enjoy. Doesn't matter if you don't have a cat. This album is the absolute bloody essence of rock n roll. Great tunes, a revved up sound and irreverent attitood. Also a great, keening ballad in 'Unsatisfied'. Nick your attention must have been elsewhere if the opening cut 'I Will Dare' didn't have you leaping round the room. Anyway give it another spin. Interesting how the Replacements are viewed critically. It seems to me that they had three phases 1) Bratty Punk (crap but fun) 2) Greatness (Let It Be/ Tim) 3) Descent into AOR - the later albums (Pleased to meet me, Don't tell a Soul) which are worthless. I've read a lot of reviews which rave about phase 3, which makes no sense to me. Anyway, Let it Be is their masterpiece-one of the best 10 albums ever made. It's the only one I own, I have briefly owned and discarded a couple of the later ones - victims of my own 'culling the runts of the litter' policy which swings into operation when I've spent hard earned cash on a clunker. I have rarely regretted this policy, although it has once or twice resulted in me having to re-buy something that I had got rid of. You don't need to tell me how sad this is. (Example : Exile on Main Street - why did I ever hate it?) Normally I never look back, and feel a sense of relief at having removed the particular item from my collection. Latest example : Death in Vegas "The Contino Sessions" A laughably useless piece of tripe.

Dr. C, Thursday, 25 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Yeah, Nick. Listen to that shit again. If you must, skip #'s 3, 6, 8 and 9. The rest is classic. Maybe 4 throwaway tracks out of 11 and a song called "Gary's Got a Boner" doesn't necessarily add up to the blind praise this one usually gets, but it's far from bad......"Anndrogy-NOUS!"

larmey, Thursday, 25 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Death in Vegas of course rock, I'm not sure if I still own a copy of 'Let it Be', used to think they were allright, probably can't stand them these days, definitely sold my copy of 'Pleased to meet you'. Anyway, another classic miscalculated purchase must be A.R.Kane's "69". Man, did Simon Reynolds go overboard with praising these tossers. So strange, in theory they should have been my favorite band :) I should have seen it coming though when the guy behind the counter went "mmmmmm, A.R.Kane" which with the frowning roughly translates as "do we still sell cd's by these fuck-ups".

Omar, Friday, 26 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Gotta agree about AR Kane - useless. I briefly had '69' and 'I' - both unlistenable mucking about. I just can't see what the fuss is about with Death in Vegas. Doomy groaning (J. Reid, Gillespie, Iggy) over the most pedestrian of plodding beats you'll ever hear. Just very, very drab. Larmey - the 'filler' is kinda part of the point with Let it Be. Taken on their own the throwaway tracks are not great, but for me the whole album works better if you play it all through. Maybe it just throws 'I will Dare', ' Androgynous' 'Unsatisfied' etc into relief. The Kiss cover 'Back Diamond' is a rockin mutha too!

Dr. C, Friday, 26 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Realised that I made a mistake - it's the 'worthless' 'Don't Tell A Soul' that I picked up. So 'Let it Be' might well be the mutha you assure me it is.

N.

Nick, Friday, 26 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

The Incredible String Band's albums 'The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter' and 'The 5000 Spirits' both disagreed violently with me. I tried and tried but I just couldn't see why people rave about them. Still, they were only a fiver each and I've since sold them, so it's not the end of the world.

Jonathan, Friday, 26 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Funny the Incredible String Band mention, that was my latest, greatest regret. So much good ink spilled in praise of _Hangman's_, but totally unlistenable hippy crap to me. And I usually like hippie crap! Don't understand the appeal of that at all, especially compared to other British folk of the time (Nick Drake, Sandy Denny.)

Mark Richardson, Friday, 26 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

i heard that Death in Vegas's first album, Dead Elvis, is way better than Contino Sessions, is this true? i dont know why i keep pursuing this band...

guh, Sunday, 28 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Guh, "Dead Elvis" is a bit uneven, has some great tunes (esp. one hard techno track which ends in a well-hard guitar riff) and some weak-ass reggae tracks. I've you find it at a discount you won't be too disappointed.

----- i dont know why i keep pursuing this band... -----

There's something about a "band" that starts from a techno-base but incorporates the cool parts from the Velvets, Stooges, Jesus&MAryChain, NEU! and dub. Maybe it depends on your outlook, in a way they are a necessary band, or one that from a techno point-of- view had to be invented.

Omar, Monday, 29 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Omar, a band like you described SHOULD be fantastic. The problem is that DIV are very far short of the mark. What I'm missing is some kind of integration of the parts to make something new. I can't get past "Here's the Iggy one, here's the Mercury Rev-y one". It lacks the thrilling agility of the best techno for me.

Dr. C, Monday, 29 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link

Yeah Dr.C I know what you mean in regards of "Here's the Iggy/Bobby G./Mr.Blobby one". Don't think they're classic (yet) but on the instrumentals they do a nice NEU! meets Tubby with a bit of Pan Sonic. Although I will admit that maybe it's just attitude music, techno with the leather jacket/ boy named Johnny/ heroin/ "we like Basic Channel"/ the city is a dark place/ cool haircut thing. I don't think they really work as club-music, no techno DJ will play "Aisha", it's more headphones-walking-through-the-city-on-a-cold-day music.

Omar, Monday, 29 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago) link


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