David Bowie - could there be a more barefaced attempt to jump on a bandwagon (4 years too late)?

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From www.davidbowie.com... "The buzz in the music business is all about mash-ups. You've read about them, you've heard them, now it's time to create your own. A mash-up is a song created from parts of other songs, "mashed-up." Mix and match songs to create something new. That's what you'll do here with any track from David Bowie's "Reality" CD and any other favorite Bowie track. Mix, match, mash-up and make something new.

Each week during the contest, DavidBowie.com will choose the top three entries and post them online. Log onto THIS PAGE at noon EST each Friday (April 16 – May 27), listen to the tracks and cast your vote for which mash-up should be crowned the week’s finalist.

If your mash-up can make it past the DavidBowie.com judges, become a finalist and then make the final cut with Bowie himself you will win an Audi TT coupe!"


How desperate can he be that he needs to use an Audi TT to get 'the kids' to mash him up?

Having said that though... where are my Labyrinth accapellas?

ashley MCR (Ashley), Friday, 7 May 2004 11:38 (twenty years ago) link

I d/led the tracks on the site. BAsically, just excerpts from the lp. and the 'other' tracks are excerpts from the back catalogue.

So, no acapellas or backing tracks.

It is to YAWN!

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 7 May 2004 12:31 (twenty years ago) link

David Bowie has never been at the forefront of any musical or stylistic fronts. I don't know why you'd expect it now that he's more than 60 years old.

That said, I don't see anything wrong with him providing this, and I'm sure it could be fun (although moreso if he provided the acapellas).

If I were Sean Combs, I'd ask for my money back, though.

Nkozyra, Friday, 7 May 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link

"that tv on the radio band sure is good."

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 12:51 (twenty years ago) link

He's more than 60 years old? Man, that guy can fucking rock. (I saw him a couple of months ago)

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 7 May 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

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Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 7 May 2004 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

'Let's Dance' vs 'Fix Up Look Sharp' is one of my more recent mash-ups fyi (but then i'm always messing around with 'Let's Dance')

stevem (blueski), Friday, 7 May 2004 13:27 (twenty years ago) link

The Liberty X one is a classic.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 7 May 2004 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

This promotion sounds like Bongwater's "David Bowie Wants Ideas" in which Bowie does a mass mailing inviting anyone with some ideas to give him a call. Only this is for real.

brian patrick (brian patrick), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

He's the thin white archduke of late bandwagon commandeering, remember. Witness Earthling and its ham-fisted jostling of "drum'n'bass". Think he can look back on that without gagging?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

So what's wrong with Bowie trying this, especially since he's got one of the best (Go Home Productions) working with him? He's not proclaiming the blazing of new trails, he's just dabbling in something he's interested in, and he's suckered the Audi people into promoting and paying.

But I wish they would have included acapellas and instrumental tracks so that people could really have a go at it...

...and the energy of Earthling has aged better than I thought it would, so lay off. :-)

Erick H (Erick H), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

>David Bowie has never been at the forefront of any musical or stylistic fronts<

Actually, he WAS way ahead of the game on disco rhythms in the early/ mid '70s....(a decade or so before he started sucking complete ass)

chuck, Friday, 7 May 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago) link

does being first matter as much as being good?

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

huckle buck otm

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

Hucklebuck OTM in a perfect world, but not this one.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

this, NA, is a Different World
http://www.dawnnlewis.com/pop_up/images/different_world1.jpg

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

> Actually, he WAS way ahead of the game on disco rhythms in the early/ mid '70s....(a decade or so before he started sucking complete ass) <

People who say that also think he was ahead of the game in Metal (Man Who Sold The World) and ahead of the game in blue-eyed soul (Young Americans). He was just the most popular artist dabbling in that, not a trailblazer in a fashion.

Nkozyra, Friday, 7 May 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

David Bowie - could there be a more barefaced attempt to jump on a bandwagon (4 years too late)?

pls delete all music criticism that uses the phrase "jump on a bandwagon" now k thnx.

tricky disco, Friday, 7 May 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

>People who say that also think he was ahead of the game in Metal (Man Who Sold The World) and ahead of the game in blue-eyed soul (Young Americans). He was just the most popular artist dabbling in that, not a trailblazer in a fashion.<

Big difference. Metal was around a few years before 1970, and blue eyed soul was around at least a decade and a half before 1975. So nope - not ahead of the game on those genres at all. But there are moments on his early '70s albums where it sounds like Bowie has stumbled upon disco rhythms, before disco even had a name. (Michael Freedberg, one of the two or three most important disco critics ever, swears that Bowie's rhythms and vocals were as important in disco's development as James Brown's, believe it or not!)

chuck, Friday, 7 May 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

Bowie in the 70s, early 80s, and maybe even now was more like a template for Madonna, flitting between this and that emerging cultural phenom, bringing it to hitherto unreached mass audiences. And looking good.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

also Bowie is to Hitler salute as Madonna is to burning crosses.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

and
Bowie:having (alleged) sex with Mick Jagger::Madonna:having photographed sex with Vanilla Ice

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

they'll be dancing in the streets/open your heart to me, baby

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

You're gonna look sooo good in that new Audi, Hstencil.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 7 May 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

until Madonna sues me and takes it away.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

Cure using matte black nu-metal guitars, sounding like Blink 182?

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

"Witness Earthling and its ham-fisted jostling of "drum'n'bass". Think he can look back on that without gagging?"

Yes, and how. As of Reality interviews, he still regarded it as his best post-relevence (not his words, obviously) album, and "I'm Afraid Of Americans" as one of his best songs.

(Not defending that position at all of course)

Sansai@dafd.com, Friday, 7 May 2004 21:00 (twenty years ago) link

Instead of chasing the new styles, why doesn't he just settle into the faded glory of his glam roots, like a magnificent old theatre with peeling wallpaper and giant chandeliers?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 7 May 2004 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

bowie is almost as bad as prince in being desperate to look ahead of the curve.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Friday, 7 May 2004 21:57 (twenty years ago) link

bowie cant run so fast these days so it takes him a little while to grab onto the back of the bandwagon.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Friday, 7 May 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

"But there are moments on his early '70s albums where it sounds like Bowie has stumbled upon disco rhythms, before disco even had a name. (Michael Freedberg, one of the two or three most important disco critics ever, swears that Bowie's rhythms and vocals were as important in disco's development as James Brown's, believe it or not!)"

-- chuck (cedd...), May 7th, 2004.


Interesting. I never heard this before or made the connection myself, but thinking now about the dramatic strings, wah-wah guitar, and Bowie's high-ranged vocals on "1984," I can see where Freedberg is coming from. Although, I'm not sure how anything Bowie did that was disco-like back then was much different than what Curtis Mayfield and others were doing at that time. Is it Bowie's theater background that makes the difference? What examples does Freedberg cite? I need to pull out my albums and do some listening.

Marcus Barr (Marcus Barr), Saturday, 8 May 2004 02:11 (twenty years ago) link

wired takes on bowie mashups and ends up at danger mouse and dj n-wee.

andrew s (andrew s), Saturday, 8 May 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

so now people think bowie was a precursor to disco. those type of rhythms were already being used by dozens of soul and funk groups before disco had a name, and before bowie had his eye on co-opting it for his own records. half of 1984 sounds like it was cribbed from shaft.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 8 May 2004 09:43 (twenty years ago) link

He's a sampler and a synthesizer, not a lab whitecoat or R&D guy. Whitecoats are scientist boffins, sampler/synthesizers are more like politicians, popularising stuff, shaking hands, making themselves the focus for energies flowing through the culture. 'It's not really work, it's just the power to charm' -- and tell stories.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 8 May 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago) link


It's obvious why Bowie is so fond of "Earthling": it's clearly his most adventurous CD since way back when (although I think that "Outside", minus the silly gothy tropes, is even moreso.)

The drum 'n bass rap against "Earthling" is largely based on tepid air. There are two tracks that use those beats, and those are the two sucky songs--there are no other allusions to the style.

"Dead Man Walking", "Battle for Britain" and yes, "IAOA" are brilliant genre cut and pastes, among his finest. "Little Wonder" is aforable and smart.

It would seem that 'relevance' is defined and measured in most cited cases as people under twenty five with good CD collections (Interpol, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Hives, Strokes etc) and the ability to mime their favorite discs. This is a tiresome, glib and intellectually shallow argument.

ian g., Saturday, 8 May 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

"It would seem that 'relevance' is defined and measured in most cited cases as people under twenty five with good CD collections (Interpol, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Hives, Strokes etc) and the ability to mime their favorite discs."

Not at all. I meant it in terms of commercial/critical relevance (which really can't be contested in Bowie's case - sales of everything since Tonight have been decent at best, and the critics didn't really jump back on board until Heathen), not personal. There are a couple good songs on Outside and Earthling, and Heathen and Reality are solid. I probably should have said "post-crash" instead, which would've got the point across as well.

Sansai, Saturday, 8 May 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

Jeez--my post there was rather bitchy; thanks for your sober response.

This is a pet peeve, especially when people dis Bowie but go to bat for fellow seniors such as, say, Mark Smith or Dylan, claiming relevance that strikes me as most often mainly based on vapors, no matter what.

Ian G., Saturday, 8 May 2004 18:36 (twenty years ago) link


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