MJ ist rad. And how right he is! Though for some reason this is
making me think of all the loser bands we mocked that were opening for
the headliners at shows in 1991 or so. "Ladies and gentlemen,
Ionescu!" "Fuck you! Play 'Bela Lugosi's Dead!'" You don't want to
know more.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
The interesting question becomes whether the bandwagons upon which we
hopped as youth were actually any good or not. We could read M.J.'s
opinion to be either (a) well, no, but that's entirely beside the
point, or (b) well, yes, and so are the new ones, only some of us are
too old to tell. Or, of course, (c) who cares, listen to what you
like and quit fretting, which is good advice on a personal level but
maybe iffier on a critical one. (Although who knows? Maybe there's
something to be said for a broad swath of criticism that elects not
to try for objectivity and just makes its gut-level points broadly,
unworried that others will come along and accuse it of being short-
sighted or blind or old or naive or "just not getting it." Subjective
criticism works so long as there are enough people doing it to cover
all perspectives, and so long as all of them are okay with the
possibility that they'll be really good at it but everyone will think
they're fools -- criticism as art, I suppose.)
So, are we to be wary of both youngsters and their most passionate
devotions and oldsters and their disinterested nay-saying? If
we are attempting some measure of critical objectivity, how do
we grapple with the importance of Being There, of being
involved in something? Will we have to admit that our
criticisms of, say, nu-metal are completely meaningless, because
there's the possibility that while it's dumb, it's actually perfect
and meaningful for those who are with it? (I can think of
plenty of personal youthful loves that were in fact critically
ridiculous but I still believe are valuable and in some cases
brilliant.) Or ... or subjectivity? Putting all of this on the
table and saying "this is where I happen to be," accepting
that our supposedly "critical" voices may soon fail to have any
relevance? This seems to be the FT approach, and it seems to be MJ's,
and at the end of these long paragraphs, it's looking pretty good to
me, too.
― Nitsuh, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I think the point i was thrashing about for was not that we must
accept our own subjectivity to _allow_ ourselves to be relevant. e.g.
if i were to say Westlife were rubbish because they do not playing
their own instruments, write political critiques, nor speak to ME
directly about MY life i would, of course, be a BLOODY IDIOT who
should be KILLED. However, if i recognise that that's not the point
of them, that have a market that very much does NOT include me, then
i can merrily criticise them for being an pound-shop quality version
of music that insults us all as human beings quite happily.
To put the whole thing more succinctly, reading aging tits moaning
about how things aren't as good as they used to be is BORING and i
wish they'd USE their age and experience to describe what they hear,
rather than denying it.
― MJ Hibbett, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Sorry, typo there - the point i was thrashing about for WAS that we
must accept our subjectivity. That was a stray "not".
― MJ Hibbett, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link