Sonic Youth tunings revisited.

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I just wanted to share the following info I discovered, for the guy that posted the initial weird tuning post. If I could find that post, I'd reply to it, but since I can't, check out these tunings. This is a wealth of info to keep a guitarist occupied for a few years.:

THE SONIC YOUTH TUNING TUTORIAL

Text accompaniment to http://www.islandnet.com/~mustang/tab/tuning.html

Compiled by Chris Lawrence (mustang@islandnet.com)

Tunings listed from low to high. Next to each tuning will be an explanation on how to tune, which looks like: Eu2 Ad3 etc.. "Eu2" means to tune the E string up 2 frets, or one whole step. "Ad3" means to tune the A string down 3 frets, or one and 1/2 steps. "s" means the note stays the same. The songs each tuning is known to be used on will be given (and the initial of who used it, if the tuning is used by more than one member), followed by any necessary notes. Enjoy!

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Tuning: A A A A B D

How to tune: Eu5 As Du7 Gu2 Bs Ed2

Used on: ?

NOTES: Crossed out for Lee's name under Justice is Might on Bad Moon Rising liners. In Total Guitar magazine #46, Lee calls this tuning the "Wall Of Sound" chord.

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Tuning: A A E E F# A

How to tune: Eu5 As Du2 Gd3 Bd5 Ed7

Used by Lee on: Justice Is Might

NOTES: n/a

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Tuning: A A E E A A

How to tune: Eu5 As Du2 Gd3 Bd2 Ed7

Used by Lee on: Silver Rocket, Candle, Cinderella's Big Score, Theresa's Sound-World (w/ capo @ 3rd fret), Youth Against Fascism (live).

NOTES: used at least twice on Youth Against Fascism live, and possibly on the album too though GGDDEbEb is the commonly cited tuning for it (tuning is pretty arbitrary for YAF anyway).

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Tuning: A C C G G# C

How to tune: Eu5 Au3 Dd2 Gs Bd3 Ed4

Used by Thurston on: Silver Rocket, Candle, Kissability, Cinderella's Big Score, Theresa's Sound-World, Youth Against Fascism (live).

NOTES: used on Youth Against Fascism live, though Thurston claims any tuning will suffice.

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Tuning: A D D A A D

How to tune: Ed7 Ad7 Ds Gu2 Bd2 Ed2 or Eu5 Au5 Ds Gu2 Bd2 Ed2

Used by Lee on: Junkie's Promise

NOTES: not entirely sure which octave the first 2 notes are..

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A F# E F# E B

How to tune: Ed7 Ad3 Du2 Gd1 Bd7 Ed5

Used by Lee on: Becuz, Saucer-Like (live), Washing Machine (1st half), Panty Lies, Skip Tracer.

NOTES: variation on F#F#F#F#EB tuning. also used on 100% live '95/'96.

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B E D D B B

How to tune: Ed5 Ad5 Ds Gd5 Bd12 Ed17

Used by Kim on: Bone, Quest For the Cup?

NOTES: Kim mentions this tuning in July '94 Guitar Player. she says she used it on "Skink" and "Bone", but skink had bass on live versions and i'm pretty sure it does on the album too... the only Jet Set songs she plays guitar on are "Bone" and "Quest". This is also Kim's Free Kitten tuning, and most of FK's early songs are in it. Creme Brulee/On The Strip may be in this tuning too.

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C C E B G D

How to tune: Eu8 Au3 Du2 Gu4 Bd4 Ed2

Used by Thurston on: The Sprawl, 'Cross the Breeze, Disappearer.

NOTES: also used on "World Looks Red" in '89.

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C C G G G D

How to tune: Eu8 Au3 Du5 Gs Bd4 Ed2

Used by Lee on: Marilyn Moore

NOTES: may be slightly off..

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C# F# C# F# A# B

How to tune: Ed3 Ad3 Dd1 Gd1 Bd1 Ed5

Used by Lee on: Bone, Waist?

NOTES: Lee mentions using this tuning in 7/94 Guitar Player. I don't know whether this means he used it on Jet Set or not, but Bone/Waist are either in this tuning or F#F#F#F#EB, so this tuning seems to do.

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C G G D D D

How to tune: Ed4 Ad2 Dd7 Gd5 Bd9 Ed14

Used by Kim on: Becuz, Junkie's Promise, Saucer-Like, Washing Machine, Unwind, Little Trouble Girl (?), No Queen Blues, Anagrama, Slaapkamers Met Slagroom, Stil, Contre Le Sexisme, Wildflower Soul, Hoarfrost, French Tickler, The Ineffable Me, Snare, Girl, Heather Angel.

NOTES: also used on

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C G C/C C/C G/G A#/C (12-string guitar w/ 10 strings)

How to tune: Ed4 Ad2 Dd2/Dd2 Gd7/Gd7 Bd4/Bd4 Ed6/Ed4

Used by Lee on: Free City Rhymes, Renegade Princess, Side2Side (album)

NOTES: 12-string guitar with only 1 string for E and A (in standard). I'm not sure whether the Cs are in unison or tuned an octave apart like a normal 12-string would be, though I'd imagine they'd be an octave apart. I think Lee used this tuning on side2side for the studio version, but he used a G# tuning for the post-album tour.

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C G D G B B

How to tune: Ed4 Ad2 Ds Gs Bs Ed5

Used by Thurston on: Anagrama, Slaapkamers, Stil, Sunday, Wildflower, Hoarfrost, French Tickler, Karen Koltrane, The Ineffable Me, Snare, Girl, Heather Angel, Free City Rhymes, Renegade Princess.

NOTES: tuning stolen from pavement. also used on the majority of thurston's 'psychic hearts' record.

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D D D D E A

How to tune: Ed2 Ad7 Ds Gd5 Bd7 Ed7

Used by Lee on: I'm Insane

NOTES: tuning seems arbitrary on this song (see Gila Monster vid..)

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D D D D A A

How to tune: Ed2 Ad7 Ds Gd5 Bd2 Ed7

Used by Lee on: Schizophrenia, Catholic Block, Tuff Gnarl.

NOTES: n/a

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D# D# C# C# G G

How to tune: Ed1 Ad6 Dd1 Gd6 Bd4 Ed9

Used by Lee on: I Love Her All The Time

NOTES: w/ screwdriver behind 9th fret.

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D F C D F F

How to tune: Ed2 Ad4 Dd2 Gd5 Bd6 Ed11

Used by Lee on: Nevermind, Small Flowers Crack Concrete, StreamxSonik

Subway, NYC Ghosts & Flowers.

NOTES: n/a

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D G D D B B

How to tune: Ed2 Ad2 Ds Gd5 Bd12 Ed17

Used by Kim on: Free City Rhymes, Renegade Princess

NOTES: n/a

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D A D G G B

How to tune: Ed2 As Ds Gs Bd4 Ed5

Used by Kim on: Female Mechanic Now On Duty, Karen Koltrane, Herinneringen, Lightnin'.

NOTES: n/a

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D A D A B B

How to tune: Ed2 As Ds Gu2 Bs Ed5

Used by Kim on: Nevermind, Small Flowers Crack Concrete

NOTES: also used by Thurston on Junkie's Promise?

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E E B B E F#

How to tune: Es Ad5 Dd3 Gd8 Bd7 Ed10

Used by Lee on: Dirty Boots, Swimsuit Issue, Wish Fulfillment, Chapel Hill, JC, Purr, Skink, Tokyo Eye, Sweet Shine, The Diamond Sea, Hits of Sunshine.

NOTES: n/a

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E E E E F# F#

How to tune: Es Ad5 Du2 Gd3 Bd5 Ed10

Used by Lee on: 'Cross the Breeze

NOTES: n/a

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E E B E G# B

How to tune: Es Ad5 Dd3 Gd3 Bd3 Ed5

Used on: Winner's Blues (T), Compilation Blues, Razorblade (K).

NOTES: acoustic tuning

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E E B E B E

How to tune: Es Ad5 Dd3 Gd3 Bs Es

Used on: Ghost Bitch?

NOTES: shown in Bad Moon liners as "mellow" tuning for Society is a Hole. SIAH seems to be in F#F#F#F#EB however, though this open E style tuning would work well for the acoustic guitar part on Ghost Bitch. In Total Guitar #46, Lee says this tuning is good for "drone like power chords".

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E E B F# B E

How to tune: Es Ad5 Dd3 Gd1 Bs Es

Used on: Ghost Bitch

NOTES: shown in Bad Moon liners as Society tuning. see above tuning for elaboration.

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E G D G E D

How to tune: Es Ad2 Ds Gs Bd7 Ed2

Used by Thurston on: Dirty Boots, Tunic, Titanium Expose, Swimsuit Issue, Wish Fulfillment, Chapel Hill, Purr, Skink, Screaming Skull, Bone, Tokyo Eye, Sweet Shine, The Diamond Sea, Female Mechanic Now On Duty, Hits of Sunshine, and by Kim on My Friend Goo.

NOTES: also possibly used on Androgynous Mind, Little Trouble Girl, and Four6.

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E G# E G# E G#

How to tune: Es Ad1 Du2 Gu1 Bd7 Ed8

Used on: Expressway (TL), PCH (TL), and Inhuman live (L).

NOTES: n/a

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E A D E C D

How to tune: Es As Ds Gd3 Bu1 Ed2

Used by Lee on: World Looks Red, Confusion is Next.

NOTES: both w/ screwdriver behind 9th fret.

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E A D G B E

How to tune: ahem..

Used by Thurston and Lee on all of the first EP and Mildred Pierce. Also used on plenty of covers, including I Wanna Be Yr Dog, Hotwire My Heart, the Ramones set on Hold That Tiger, etc etc

NOTES: despite being recorded in standard, most of the first EP doesn't rely on any specific tuning. the majority of SY's covers are in standard as well.

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E B E E A B

How to tune: Es Au2 Du2 Gd3 Bd2 Ed5

Used by Lee on: Eric's Trip, Hey Joni, Kissability.

NOTES: n/a

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F G C F A F#

How to tune: Ed11 Ad14 Dd2 Gd2 Bd2 Ed10

Used by Thurston on: Nevermind, Small Flowers Crack Concrete, side2side, Streamxsonik Subway, NYC Ghosts & Flowers, Lightnin'.

NOTES: n/a

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F# F# F# F# E B

How to tune: Eu2 Ad3 Du4 Gd1 Bd7 Ed5

Used by Thurston and Lee on: Intro, Brave Men Run, Society is a Hole, Death Valley '69, Halloween, Starpower, Death to Our Friends, Pipeline, Tuff Gnarl, Kool Thing, 100%, Saucer-Like.

Used by Thurston on: Shadow of a Doubt, Catholic Block, Mary Christ, Shoot, Waist, Becuz, Panty Lies.

NOTES: one of the oldest and most popular SY tunings. often used by Thurston nowadays on older songs where specific tuning isn't relevant, such as Burning Spear, She is Not Alone, and The World Looks Red.

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F# F# G G A A

How to tune: Eu2 Ad3 Du5 Gs Bd2 Ed7

Used on: Tom Violence (TL), Schizophrenia (T), White Kross (TL), Drunken Butterfly (TL), Skip Tracer (T).

NOTES: n/a

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F# A A F# F# F#

How to tune: Eu2 As Dd5 Gd1 Bd5 Ed10

Used by Lee on: Shadow of a Doubt?

NOTES: "Alternate Death Valley tuning - good for something". works remarkably well for Shadow...

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G G B D G A

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Dd3 Gd5 Bd4 Ed7

Used by Lee on: Sugar Kane, Genetic.

NOTES: Lee also used this on Jet Set, likely..

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G G C C A# A#

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Dd2 Gd7 Bd1 Ed6

Used by Thurston on: I Love Her All The Time, Ghost Bitch

NOTES: played w/ drumstick behind 12th fret.

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G G C G C D

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Dd2 Gs Bu1 Ed2

Used by Lee on: Bull in the Heather, Starfield Road, Self-Obsessed and Sexxee, In the Mind of The Bourgeois Reader, Washing Machine (2nd half), Unwind, No Queen Blues.

NOTES: probably used on more jet set tunes...

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G G C# D G G

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Dd1 Gd5 Bd4 Ed9

Used by Lee on: The Wonder, Hyperstation

NOTES: n/a

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G G D D Eb Eb

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Ds Gd5 Bd8 Ed13

Used by Thurston and Lee on: Kill Yr Idols, Brother James, Early American, Flower, Green Light, Stereo Sanctity, Cotton Crown, Total Trash, Orange Rolls, Angel's Spit, Youth Against Fascism, Blues Blur.

Used by Thurston on: The Wonder, Hyperstation, Eliminator Jr, Mote, Bull in the Heather, Starfield Road, Self-Obsessed and Sexxee, In The Mind of the Bourgeois Reader, Washing Machine, Unwind, No Queen Blues.

NOTES: another old favorite. probably used on more than this, too..

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G G D D F F

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Ds Gd5 Bd6 Ed11

Used by Lee on: Mote

Notes: n/a

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G G D D G G

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Ds Gd5 Bd4 Ed9

Used by Lee on: Teenage Riot, The Sprawl, Eliminator Jr, Tunic, Mary-Christ, Titanium Expose.

NOTES: n/a

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G G D G G A

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Ds Gs Bd4 Ed7

Used by Lee on: Female Mechanic Now On Duty

NOTES: lee puts a capo at the 2nd fret halfway thru the song.

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G G D A G A

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Ds Gu2 Bd4 Ed7

Used by Lee on: Anagrama, Slaapkamers, Stil, Wildflower Soul, The Ineffable Me, Snare, Girl, Heather Angel.

NOTES: n/a

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G G D A G A#

How to tune: Eu3 Ad2 Ds Gu2 Bd4 Ed6

Used by Lee on: Karen Koltrane

NOTES: n/a

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G A B D E G

How to tune: Eu3 As Dd3 Gd5 Bd7 Ed9

Used by Thurston on: Teenage Riot, Hey Joni, Sugar Kane, Genetic.

NOTES: in Total Guitar #46 Lee comments that this tuning is good for "bright and thrashy riffs".

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G# A# G#/A# A#/A C#/D# E/F# (12-string guitar w/ 10 strings)

How to tune: Eu4 Au1 Du6/Dd4 Gu2/Gd10 Bu2/Bd8 Es/Ed10

Used by Lee on: Side2Side live

NOTES: I have no idea if those are the proper octaves for those notes, but if using a standard 12-string set of strings (w/ the octave E and A removed), that would seem to be the logical tuning pattern..

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this document copyright © 1997-2002 chris lawrence.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

two months pass...
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a-33, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just for a lark, I'm going to try and write a song in every single one of these tunings. That should keep me busy for a while

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link


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