Jay-Z / Nas hip-hop throw down? & other throw-downs? Pt. 2: The Saga Continues.

This is a real good debate. We get good stories first then we go to the Sports section, which has developed to come in to its own. Therefore I am proposing this format and not in any Particular order:

MAIN:

Just to give you an update, we are still much divided on this board as far as Nas and Jay. We are currently in Peace time as we concluded the East/South war. First it was Hillis and LOX way back in October, then a bloody battle with Hillis and Best. I'm no historian, just an executive summarist. I will continue to lay out the big picture, the essence of Hip-Hop and the role of Hip-Hop in society. This is the first time I got a shout out from Hollywood I'm touched.

SPORTS:

DA BEARS!!!!! Bears all the way baby. I love my Bears. We are finally winning. It's not all the time you get to go for your actual team in the playoffs. McNabb is my boy, and one of my favorite players in the league, but he's gonna get served!!!!

A.I. needs a new team or his old one back. I'm a stick with philly for about 2 more years. But, If they trade A.I. it's over.

OTHER HIP HOP:

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i cruise through this site for a few minutes, to see if any other topics catch my eyes, but usually, i come straight here.

i dont think we're every gonna come to a middle point betwinxd hova and nasir, to many people from to many parts of the world.to many points of views.

Hillis, I think you right about the Blazers. Dunleavy started good but fucked it up alnog the way. Even so, every time they play Philly, Damon gets the upperhand on AI. I aint saying hes the best PG or shit like that, but he always does well against him.

To all the veterans, big shout outs, and whoever set up the new thread, you saved me some time!

All y'all who want to use my name in vain, Fuck You!

Peace

Sage, I ain't tryin to hate, but the Bears are garbage. They are thanking God they don't have to see the Pack because their season would be guaranteed to end that day. The Bears don't have a chance against the Rams or the Pack, in my opinion. I think they are a continuation of last year's Giants. But oh well, I'd rather the Bears win than the Packers or the Rams. But I find it unlikely. However, I'm pullin for an AFC team, even if it means cheering for the hated Ravens.

Best, again not hating, but I would suggest considering Omega Psi Phi. Kappas are nice, but they don't always get nationwide respect. Omegas always get respect, no matter what. However, Omegas have a loud, rowdy, "doggish" image, and that may not be you. But the Kappas have a pretty boy image that isn't me. So it's whatever. Even though I'm sure you know this already, I'll tell you anyway: pledging a frat at an HBCU means you gon get yo ass WHIPPED! And sometimes for no other reason than they just want to whip y'all's asses. Good luck, though. You'll be all right.

I'm out like Marty Schottenheimer in Washington. Peace!

GUNSHOTS!!!FUCK GAY-Z.WHATS UP NIGGAS.AYO I KNOW YOU AINT TALKING ABOUT ME DOG .YOU WHAT.FUCK GAY-Z.YOU BEEN ON MY DICK .YOU LOVE MY STYLE.FUCK GAY-Z!

1. Rocky Marciano (only undefeated champion, of any weight. 49 fights, 43 knock-outs)///2. Mohammed Ali (need I say more)///3. Joe Louis///4. George Foreman///5. Joe Frazier

hmmm... I know a lot of you will say Ali...

Magic Johnson for president!!!!!!!!!

If i got to talk bout hiphop, then i'ma say that pharoe monch dont get enough recognition. And when the fuck is spliff star, or any other flipmode member apart from rah digga and bus, gonna release an album?

- barbershop guy Eddie Murphy played in "Coming To America"

Sorry, 3:16, but when you had Rocky Marciano as #1, I always think of that shit. Anyway, I supposed you don't know about that man Cassius Clay. Rocky Marciano DID beat Joe Louis' ass, but he didn't want it with Cassius Clay, Jr. For those of you who are wondering, Cassius Clay, Jr. is Muhammad Ali before he became Muslim. "His momma named him Clay, I'ma call him Clay..." Rocky Marciano probably didn't want it with your boy Lennox Louis. But if I have to say the greatest boxers ever? Here's my list...

#5 Apollo Creed #4 Clubber Lang #3 Russian Guy from Rocky IV #2 Mr. Sandman #1 Glass Joe

Moving on, what's up with the fake Big J AKA fake 3:16? He has now proven he is no older than 14 and he's gettin sloppy. Dude, there's a space in between Big J's email! I can't hate too much, but at least when I did that imposter stuff, I made it obvious who really did it. Wasn't no shame in my game, playa. If you're a grown ass man like most of are (except my homegirl Steph), hen you'll come with a real name of your own. Good luck, though, Imposter Man!

Now, for the REAL Big J... You've got to be kidding about Patrick Ewing. How can you say P-Dub was the best center ever?! He might have been the most overrated center ever. Remember how he disappeared against Houston in the Finals?! He never showed up in big series. Also, when the Knicks let him go, he was absolutely NO help to them, as you can see how he didn't help Seattle the next year, and he won't help Orlando this year. Check this. When the Pacers went to the NBA Finals, they faced the Knicks in the Eastern finals. Indiana won 4-2. Patrick Ewing sat out 2 games of that series. Those games he sat out, New York actually won. Plus, when NY made that run to the finals when they played San Antone, Ewing was injured again. P-Dub definitely has no business in the NBA anymore if he wants to leave with some dignity. But he's a grown ass man, and if somebody will take him, then I guess he'll play.

I'm out like Patrick Ewing's former skills. Peace!

Yeah i exagerrated about P-dub but he was the man in his day and can still make shots and get some boards. THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS NEED TO RETIRE: Patrick Ewing, David Robinson, MJ(FOR GOOD), SHAQ (haha), Hakeem, ZO, Charles Oakly, Dan Majerle, and Grant Hill. And to that fake ass, you are a damn pervert and a punk ass pussy.

P.S (o )( o)

3:16 is either ludacris or tryin' to be humerous/ talkin' foolishness, actually thinkin' he can out do this/ FUCKIN' BRIT/ I'll arrange a meeting with my Tims and ya lip/ Nigga u more artificial than MTV/ don't battle me wo, that's plain blasphemy/ I'll rip ya FACE OFF like John Travolta, now LOOK WHO'S TALKING/ flows so ill, you'll catch SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER on Wednesday mornin'/ i spit more precisely than Caucasians makin' moonshine/ dun acts hardcore, but we all know he's benign/ terrified of 'The Best' with Goosebumps like R.L. Stine/ amateur nigga, I'll lend you a few of my rhymes/cause you'll never defeat me, at least not in this lifetime/ aight, enough about that coward, what about this lyrical scholar/ a gifted nigga, in the future look for my face on the dollar/ you can't stop the force of this creation/ I flow hard like a cock during masturbation/ spittin' reality while making love to the microphone/ call me the master, holdin' more keys than a xzylaphone/ continuously spittin' bars from the top of the dome/ if not then they're expressed through the almight pen/ plagiarism and me are similiar to the yang and the yin/ niggaz be sayin' "I swear, The Best is like no other"/ You know why.....cause I cocked 3:16's mom, and gave him a brother....mothafucka

Aiyo Q, the website to hear those Cock A Fella disses to Nas and the Lox is http://www.angelfire.com/va3/rocastuff. In the words of LOX "IM OUT"!! ~1~

"As a music dude I mastered this rubix cube"-Nas

Kazper, where do I start? You fake cuz. I already spoke on your nonsense on the last board, but I didn't call your name. But now my friend, you leave me no choice. Should I address how I've seen you posting on some other places saying how tight Nas is and then you come on our joint hating on him? Or should I mention how you called Best an Illegal Alien from Africa and then turned around and gave him props for his lyrics (the same day)? Or should I mention how you started your own rap thread and people came on there and "murdered you on your own thread"? LOL I know...I'll speak on how you look up to me. You wanna post as Qoolout, huh? You wanna be my son? Okay, go head. But next time, call yourself Qoolout Jr. And thanx for calling me the leader of the board. I never proclaimed to be the leader, but I understand why you see me as the leader... me being your father figure and all. I don't mind too much when you post as "Qoolout." I feel flattered. I sit back watching you like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it. But why are you mad? (Tell em why you mad son--tell em why you mad!) Is it because we hurt your feelings? We never called you a vet? I remember my boy LOX took it to you once. Is that why you are hurt? Well, the thread is harsh, hug us, don't reject us, or write post to disrespect us, as kazper or with an alias. I can go on, but I think that's enough, like you said I'd say "Can't we all be pals?" How about that group hug now? You need one, right? H-Wood, you forgot to mention J-Dolo, but you get props for making the saga continue. You got any codes to GTA? Zebedee, thanx for making the link. How long you been following us? 3:16, what up, hows that niece/neph? You know we qool, but Best gave it to you with them lyrics. Best, I was feeling that rhyme and thanx for that info on them disses; I'll let y'all know what I think about them. Hillis, Glass Joe? Naw, you should have put the green transparent man. You know the one made out of boxes (I think)? Or Super Macho Man; it took me forever to get pass cuz. LOL Big J, I'm glad someone feels me about the D.C. Sept. 11 thing. But Jordan shouldn't retire yet. I been sticking by the Wizards/Bullets since day one and we never had a true shot, but finally we got one. He ain't in his prime, but we had Juwan the year before, remember? Steph, yeah he made a mistake, but he had no idea how big, lol, holla. Oh yeah, did y'all see Suge Knight on Carson's show?

........bet a nigga aint going nowhere.

get some.

hee,....hee,...ha,...ha,... chuckle......

SORRY!

Q, my new nephew is doing cool. His moms got him in baby tims and his dad wants him to play soccer.

Back (SHIT! I did it again!) I said I was gonna stop, you carried on, you can kiss my ass. Just dont take a bite, I know how hungry you can get. If you want to keep the beef alive, just say so... I got no problem with it.

Now Hillis, how are you gonna say shit bout my man Marciano? Dude was in 49 fights, won all of them, 43 by knockout. No champ in ANY weight has ever managed to stay UNDEFEATED! Cassius Clay, Mohammed Ali, whatever the fuck dudes call him, was THE GREATEST. But the greatest doesn't mean the best.... By the way, I meant to include Jack Dempsey in the top 5.

They got a best album poll on hiphopgame.com, hmmm... Nas is up front (bout 43%), Hova second(24%), Jadakiss 3rd with bout 5%. Then it wu- tang followed by Mobb deep. HAHA! QBs finest got 8 votes out of nearly 4000!

Since nobody knows much about boxing i'ma shut up.

Big shout outs to all the vets again, Kazper can kiss everyones ass at the same time.

Peace

lovable child at heart, man in mind, and animal.........

he he!

Since i couldnt persuade none af y'all to talk bout boxing much, apart from the valid contribution from Hillis (i aint to sure about Appollo Creed though). I'ma talk bout something else. Who do y'all think is the the best member of the Wu-Tang Clan. In order... 1. Method Man///2. RZA///3. Ghostface Killa. The rest i cant decide.

Peace

"Now the year's new, I lay my game flat I want my spot back, take two Motherfuckers mad cause I blew, niggaz envious Too many niggaz on my dick(kazper), shit strenuous"- Biggie Smalls

"Hope you got a rope to hang yourself I rob for self, from QUEENS, where else? Fat like a Lexus coupe, I'll rip your troop Not even Lois Lane could get the scoop What you think I'm stupid?(mother fucker) My crew is mad deep I hope you niggas sleep"-Biggie Smalls

you fake ass cyber thugs make me laugh.now if it doesnt apply to you dont get offended. they know who im talking about.

haters (shaking my head)

Grow up! Be a man or a woman! Shit, this ain't no thread for the weak- hearted. You can't come in here and expect us to hold your hand. We are pretty adamant about our opinions and we are extremely intense when we defend our views. But for the most part, it's all love. I mean, there's beef on the thread. I been involved in most of it. But damn, don't be scared. Say what you gotta say. It's the internet! It's ok to be a thug in here. I wouldn't know any of you if you smacked me on the ass, so I say whatever I want. I don't give a fuck. I'm havin fun. Say whatever you want. But if you come in here dissin Nas, be prepared to have The Best or Big J on that ass. If you diss DC, Qoolout gon be all on ya. Diss England, and 3:16 will be there to represent. And try to diss DA SOUTH, I'm gon have none of it. Come in here talkin nonsense, like Jay is better than Nas cuz he has more money, we gon be on that ass. We ain't got time for no two line bullshit, just cuz you impressed yo name and opinion is on an internet site. We put thought into what we post, so when we see some bullshit, we ain't gonna respond positively. I mean, say what you got say, and be out. But be prepared for somebody disagreein with you. Don't get all mad and offended cuz we don't respect your belief that Method Man ghostwrites for Mariah Carey. Or we don't agree with your definition of freestylin. Or whatever. Get a backbone, post, come back read our responses, and post again. It ain't that hard. DAMN!

Now, back to the point. Rocky Marciano didn't want to see Balrog from Street Fighter II. Just kidding. Rocky Marciano? Please. He was a bad boy, but just cuz he went undefeated don't mean shit. I mean Boston won all them titles BEFORE Jordan's Bulls and Phil's Lakers and Tim Duncan's Spurs or Hakeem's Rockets. Marciano in an era where boxers are stronger, faster, and have studied the greats? Come on. These muthafuckas would get in Marciano's ass. Look at Cassius Clay, Jr. Had he been able to keep boxin, it's no tellin what he could have done. And I'm tellin you, 3:16, I ain't tryin to divide and conquer but Marciano couldn't tie Lennoz Louis' shoes! Nor could he beat him in a boxing match...

How come a lot of niggas don't like Kobe? I ain't tryin to call out Big J cuz my boy back home hates Kobe, too. And I know a lot of niggas at school who hate him. Why? I mean, the nigga is definitely "different." He be on some other shit. Plus, that whole, "sometimes I dream that he is me" (I-wanna-be-Jordan) shit... But you can't hate Kobe for bein Jordan. We all want to be like Mike in our respective ways. Kobe can't help it he's one of the few who could realistically be the "Air Apparent."

Another thing, Method Man is the ONLY good member of Wu-Tang in my opinion. And Ghostface Killah?! That nigga is garbage times 100. That Bulletproof Wallets garbo? Come on, fellas. "And Lord knows what I'ma do to him!" Them lyrics on that song are horrible! Ghostface has no skills in my modest opinion. Wu-Tang ain't been good since the mid 90s. They been fell off.

I'm out like Rocky Marciano if he had ever met up with Cassius Clay, Jr. Peace!

Mr Kazper (Casper) the Friendly Ghost, I dont need to be no private eye to find shit on you. The instructions are posted up this thread! Maybe i will be a snoop and find some more shit, but maybe not. But please tell me you didn't write this:

"Hey guys, as you can see on my profile I`m 20, 5`7, 165lbs. I`m not in college because of my line of work. I`m in a five man singing group called "FOOTSTEPS". I`m a singer, song writer, musician. This is what I do. This is what I love. So I can actually say that I`am living one of my biggest dreams. and if you guys are still wondering (we are all getting college tutorers)" If you didnt write it, then I must of got another Kazper, ah well...

And if thats a picture of you... hmmm...

Personally, I think in a Marciano vs Ali fight (both at their peak), Marciano would get a knock-out in round 12 or later. By the way, did any of y'all see when Henry Cooper had Ali on his ass so bad his corners needed to tear Ali's glove to extend the break between rounds. Ali got saved by the bell, but theres no way he would of made the count. He won the fight cos Cooper had a real bad cut over his left eye.

Yeah, I got to say Back (DAMN!) did alright on the rhymes he put up, but like I said Best (got it right that time), do you want it?

"try the wu hate, duck, you can suck my/watch the block get clear when I buck my/boomerang darts, you cant duck my/no tellin' which clan man you got struck by" - RZA

Peace

Oh yeah, speaking of hillis, I don't give a fuc if DA BEARS are garbage, they was my team when they had garbage records. So now they my playoff with a bye garbage (BEARS since '84). I could never watch them play cause I'm in Carolina and had to see the wack ass PANTHERS every week.

The greatest boxer is Roy Jones and and Bald Bull.

As far as the whole two-week poster status, I been here before halloween. I though about posting on other sites but this thread is the sheez-hot. This is the best thread on Nas/Jay-z. I went on jackin4beats.com and you talk about immature. Those cats can't be over 15.

Now, back to the topic (this seems to be my trademark). Nas is the shit right now, Any questions????

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1970 March "Border Song", featuring the Barbara Moore Choir, is released but, despite strong UK airplay, fails to chart. April The Elton John Band makes its live debut at the Roundhouse in Camden Town, supporting T.Rex. May (9) John again plays piano on an Abbey Road Studio session for the Hollies, on "I Can't Tell The Bottom From The Top" (and is guest organist on their "Perfect Lady Housewife", for inclusion on CONFESSIONS OF THE MIND). Aug (22) Having signed to MCA Records' Uni subsidiary in the US at the invitation of label boss Russ Regan, "Border Song", from ELTON JOHN, marks his US singles chart debut, at #92. (25) John makes his live Stateside debut, accompanied by regular sidemen, bassist Dee Murray (b. David Murray Oates, Apr. 3, 1946, Southgate, London) and Nigel OLsson (b. Feb 10, 1949, Wallasey, Lancs.) on drums, performing at the 20th-anniversary celebrations for Doug Weston's Troubadour in Los Angeles, CA, opening for singer/songwriter David Ackles. With Leon Russell and Quincy Jones in the audience, John will later claim that the "awesome" reviews of this performance changed his life. Oct (3) ELTON JOHN enters the US chart. It is produced by Gus Dudgeon, and features the first Elton John Band, with John on vocals and keyboards, Dee, Olsson, and Quaye on guitar. (31) John begins his freshman US tour at the Boston Tea Party, Boston, MA. Nov (12-15) He plays the Fillmore West, supporting the Kinks. (17) A concert in New York, NY forms a live radio broadcast for station WPLJ (and is recorded for album release in 1971). (20-21) John plays at the Fillmore East, New York, with Leon Russell headlining.

1971 Jan (23) Ballad "Your Song" hits US #8. (30) TUMBLEWEED CONNECTION, featuring Dusty Springfield as a backing vocalist, hits UK #6. Dick James enlists Motown label manager John Reid as John's personal manager. He will remain with the singer for 27 years. Feb (6) ELTON JOHN hits US #4. (13) "Your Song" hits UK #7, as TUMBLEWEED CONNECTION hits US #5. (17) ELTON JOHN is certified gold by the RIAA. Mar (3) John plays the Royal Festival Hall, London, during his current UK tour. (22) The RIAA certifies gold sales of TUMBLEWEED CONNECTION. Apr (3) ELTON JOHN reaches UK #11. (24) John's title song from the film "Friends" makes US #34, as he embarks on a major UK tour, set to end in June. May (1) 17-11-70, from the November concert in New York, reaches UK #20, as soundtrack album, FRIENDS, reaches US #36, having been certified gold by the RIAA on April 6th. July (10) 11-17-70 (the month and day inverted for the US version), reaches US #11. Nov John embarks on a major UK tour.

More to follow.

"It started off on the Island, AK Shaolin niggaz wildin/ Old folks scream : stop the violence!"-The Chef Raekwon

Clearly the next step is an in-depth analysis of superstring theory.

If you can't talk about hip-hop battles, get the fuck off this post. Their topics get no play so they got to come and Invade ours. I don't care what music you listen to, this is a Hip-Hop thread. You will respect hip-hop as it is an art. To those of you who don't care for hip hop, but want to be a nusiance and not get the fuck off this thread, (oh yeah, fuck grammar, english is a bastard language anyway) notice that hip-hop has many aspects. We have our own debates as to the importance of beats and production vs lyrics. We don't need any other discussion of other types of music, especially shit that was goin on before we were born. Hip Hop stands on it's own.

Hip hop has it's own talent structure. The art of rapping is the ability to talk to a rhythm. That's what RAP stands for "rhythm and poetry". The rhythm is assisted by the beat. Rap was Rap before it was Rap Music. Rap is so versatile that it has the ability to draw from any kind of music. Even that Elton john character. People try to grade Rap on the music it uses but beats are merely a support mechanism. So, therefore all arguments on this thread will concern hip-hop (with a tolerable sports bar break).

To the vets, I apologize for responding to the alternative prick elton john poster. I will now ask that they all are on the ignore list.

Back to the topic, I haven't heard any new Nas diss except "supa ugly". But from what I'm hearin, damn, there must be about a hundred million. Everytime someone posts, I'm hearin about a new Nas diss.

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Now, your Nelly comments had me reminiscin on when I said homes would be a one hit wonder and that he would flop (and when I "repped" him on another thread... lol). Well, he made me eat my words to the tune of 8 mil sold. Still, I don't believe Nelly is good. I do respect him, now, and I agree that folks who deny his success are flat out haters who are just mad because he's hot and they not. And KRS-1 is a real fag for trying to pop back on the scene and use Nelly's success in a negative way. I mean, had he been trying to be cool with Nelly, then it would have been less gay. But anyway, as a rapper in himself, Nelly is weak. His lyrics are wack, and his puns and metaphors rarely make sense. And that sing-songy, humming, "rapping" he does is played because Juvenile and Cash Money did it before him, except Juvi's voice is lower. As a musician, however, I feel Nelly is actually quite good. He finds beats and instrumentals that work with his garbage flow and topics that go along with his trash lyrics, thus making you forget how bad he actually is. I can't hate because I like Hot in Herre, Ride Wit Me, Country Gramar, that NYSNC song, that Kelly Rowland song, #1, and his song with Lil Wayne. So for me to say he just sucks is hypocritical when he makes music I can listen, too. Rap is funny that way, these days. Niggaz like Trick Daddy come in with no real mic skills, but come out with a few headknockers, go plat, and look at all you "real" hip-hop heads like "WHAT?! I may not be quote unquote real hip-hop, but for every album you sell, I sell 1000. So who's REALLY makin moves?" And I commend them for that. SO thus, Nelly gets my nod of approval. Not because of his mic skills, because he came in made moves, and ain't give a fuck who liked it - as long as SOMEBODY did.

You cats have got to hear "Time To Go To Trial." It's by Mr. Bigg. Download that shit and have a GOOD laugh. It might be the worse song ever, so you need to hear it. Just listen to it with your boys and sit back and have a clownin session on how bad it is. Classic line - "I had em stealin out they crib cause my crack taste like ribs!" Come on, is that not some funny ass shit? Crack that taste like ribs? If Cam had had some of that crack before 106 & Park, maybe Jigga wouldn't have made him almost cry!

I'm out like Nellyville. Peace!

Speaking of Qool, this thread is cooling down. I remember when there were AT LEAST 10 posts a day. Now, since the Jay/Nas thing has calmed down, so has this aptly named thread. Is the thread dead? or just sick? I'll say sick. With summer coming and school ending, I guess computer access is scarce. Oh well, I'd like to put an interesting comment out there for all you hip-hop heads...

Eminem is the greatest rapper alive today. Why, you ask? Two words: WHITE PAC. That describes Eminem perfectly. Can you honestly name someone better? I mean, you can PERSONALLY like other artists, but to say that Eminem isn't the best is just mindboggling. He's got everything EVERYONE in here says makes a decent spitter. His delivery is on point, his lyrics are conscious, and he outsells the best of them. A lot of folks say he sells because he's white and that's complete garbage. What about ICP and all these other white rappers that emerge? Eminem is nondebated better than 99% of the rappers out there. The only artists who would have an argument against Em is possibly Jay, Nas, and Nelly. Everyone in "herre" HATES Nelly so that leaves Jay and Nas. Eminem officially murdered Jay on his own track, and Jay's verse was tight, so that leaves Nas. And Nas fell off after It Was Written and "returned" now with Stillmatic, but Eminem has been hot as soon as he entered. With three albums he's still pullin in units. So he beats Nas. So who's better? And please don't come with that, "he's white" nonsense or "sales mean nothing" trash and all the other BS that seems to shit from some mouths. Come with something about the artists PLEASE! Is that too much to ask? For us to focus on the whole issue and not go to the one par of music you like? None of that, "Rapman X's lyrics are deeper and therefore, Rapman X is better." I mean, look at the whole and don't get personal. Just tell me who's better than Em IF there is this phantom MC. Because no rapper alive is better.

Austin Powers 3 is mad funny! The intro is classic. Simply classic! You'll love it. The character of Goldmember isn't that funny, but the movie is good. I think 1 and 2 were better, but 3 is tight. And Beyonce does a good job of actually acting. I bet a lot of folks will hate just because she's Beyonce and she's on top and thus, people have to hate success. Still, Beyonce did a good job and I was surprised. I wish they had exploited the 70s better. I wanted there to be some crooked white cops and more pimp walkin, but oh well. All around, it was good so go check it out. And yes, Q, Beyonce was FINE!

All right, I need to skidaddle like Fiddle Faddle, ya taste me?

I'm out like White Pac. Peace!

Moving on, I agree that it looks like this thing is coming to an end (I don't know) but out of the last 8 posts, you and I have done six of them. So, I might go ahead and step down if this doesn't pick up (hopefully I'll stay). Maybe your comment about Em being the best will make peeps respond. If not we can just be out and go to that joint Best found. You know that one where he posted as another name and then you got upset? Anyway, we can go there, or to some other joint we don't know about yet. But I will respond to the Em issue. 1st of all Em's last CD was and is tight. I can't fake; I had to go buy that thing. But I can't overlook the 1st singles for every one of his CD's. They are all similar and they are all some trash. Seriously. The rest of the album is so tight that you almost forget, but he does that with every CD. "Without Me" is terrible. "The Real Slim Shady" is the same. He always has a few of them and that is where he losses points. Plus, he just ain't better than Jay over all or Nas. Let's say all of them can tell you a story that makes sense and has a point to it. It doesn't have to be deep and it doesn't really have to have a moral or anything. It just has to tell you something. On top of that, if it has wit, humor, and some tight lyrics then I (Qoolout) will probably like the song. That may just be me. But looking at it that way. Jay is better than Em, even if Em's did "murder him" on his track. That's just one song. Lastly, we would have said Bone was the best at that time or Snoop, but look at them today. If Em can last as long as Nas and Jay and others, then he has a shot, but it's too soon to say he is the best. (Plus Pac is still better than all of em'.)

On another note B2, thanx for the award on the name changing thing. I do try. Maybe we need to give out some more of them joints to make this site popular again. Being that I got the 1st one, I gotta give a speech. I would like to 1st thank God, because I am a Christian. I would like to thank the academy (whatever that is). I wanna thank my parents for getting it on that night and making me. All the fans and all the runner ups. Y'all made me bring my A game. Anny AKA Anny- Ann, you were like the Russian guy in that Rocky movie. Sure he got dropped like a bag of bricks, but without him, that movie would have been weak. Thus I thank you too. To those who I beefed with but didn't rename...forgive me. Muthaflippin' dyke, 3: 6queen and kazpuss, blame it on the head not the heart. Thanx for coming here, God bless and good night. Holla

The New and Untouchable

What the fuck is happening here. Where the vets gone? huh... OK I been away all week too but thats cos I been training how to get people with spinal injuries out of swimming pools. SHIZZIT!

Alright, i'll post up then seein as I reckon talk will get people back on here. RIGHT BOY BOY!

1. "went to court for the (BOY)" Killa Cam, Cam'ron, my nigga. Apparently his arrival at the ROC and going straight into a VP position hasn't been taken well by the rest of the Roc-a-fella fellas. Ah shucks!

2. Eminem aint the best rapper around at the moment. In my opinion "there aint no best". Different rappers are better at doing different things. And when peeps say he only sells cos hes white... well... hell... theres truth in that. He gets MORE AIRPLAY because HE@S WHITE! I got friends who never listen to hip hop but still buy Em. Well there you go. More airplay means more sales. I had a fat kid who knows I'm a hip hop head come up to me and say "you got any Ja Rule?". To which I replied, "NO". Like I said, more airplay.

3. The Roc have bought a Scotish vodka company, Armadale. Personally I would have gone for Goldwasser, but thats me.

4. Dash dont want it with Nas, ask Dame, he dont want it with Nas, NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Nas was all ready to sign on the dotted line with Murder I-N-C, but who put up a big ass spas out... you guessed it, DASH. Nas, aint going to INC.

5. BUT, AZ might just be signing with the.... hmmm... will they believe me.... lets see... ROC.

Thats all folks apart from a couple of tings at the end. "Who's the best? H to the 3 to the K/I'm the best, the rest of y'all niggas is gay" I just got to download the MP3 you sent (the problem was getting into my uni e-mail from home). Yeah its.... (I'll let you guess my opinion). And finally, the reason the thread gets sick is cos when nobody says anything, other peeps aint got anything to reply too.

I'm out like a fat bastard if he ever broke his neck in my swimming pool!

Peace

Hardee-har-har, cousin. I wouldn't say I got upset. Maybe I felt like you did when someone started making niggaz name feminine after you did... Actually, I didn't get upset. Like I'm sure Nas doesn't care that dickridin Nature moved to Marcy. Anyway, your speech was wack, I could have done a much better speech. Besides the only awards I'll accept is "Most Popular Outro" and "Illest Flow On The Net" because HILLIS 3000 deserves both of them (me, that's who).

Now to the respond to the rest of y'all, first I gotta say, Big J you are a vet. We need your input because you're a respected citizen of Qoolout's I-Net Fam-o. And you are a card carrying member of H3K's "Favorite Niggas (and white girl) I Don't Know" Club. In other words, you're da man! Now, Macka, I heard all the stuff about Cam's arrival being "Roc"-y (get it? rocky?) but I heard it was mainly Jay. Now, explain to me how in the hell is AZ going to the Roc?! Send me to the site where you got this info. I just don't believe that. How can Nas' boy go sign with his enemies? That's like Snoop saying he'd do a song with Puff Faggy even though Pac was supposedly his boy. Speakin of Snoop, I know this is old, but y'all have heard that Suge has in his possesion a 2Pac "Hit Em Up" song about Snoop? Suge said he would never drop it, but has anybody heard it or heard of it?

Now, moving back to White Pac... I don't think a lot of y'all are being fair. I don't think Eminem's being white is the reason he gets a lot of airplay. Eminem is actually REALLY DAMN GOOD and gets a lot of airplay. I think him being white makes white people more enthusiastic about him, obviously, but if Eminem sucked I don't think he would get airplay. Look at Bubba. If you think he gets airplay because he's White, then you're nuts. He gets airplay because Timbaland did his beats, and he's a country gimmick muthafucka. And he's somewhat decent. I mean, there's been maybe 3 notable white rappers in the histoy of hip hop, so of course, you're gonna notice an Eminem before you notice the next Jay-Z or Nas. Black rappers come and go everyday. Still Jay and Nas and even Ludacris and Nelly get as much airplay. Hell, I hear Saturday and Roll Out and Hot in Herre more than Without Me! Maybe that's in the South, but Eminem doesn't get special treatment DOWN HEAH! But moving on to Qool, I can't believe you would fault Eminem for "Without Me" and "Real Slim Shady." Even if those songs are bull, you can't front like Jay and Nas have always come out with tight songs. Izzo was some bull and so was Hard Knock Life. And with Nas you got Nastradamus and You Owe Me. Bull jive just to boost sales and lead in their album. So faulting him for two bad songs is ridiculous. Yes, Pac is better than all of them. Way better. Which is why White Pac is the best today. And there's a difference between BONE and Eminem. Eminem has been here since late 98. It's mid 2002 now. He's been here about 4 years. BONE dropped 2 albums and dipped. Em's dropped 3 and sold at least 3 million on each of them. Snoop dropped Doggystyle and fell off when Dre left Death Row. Eminem is still going strong. And besides, I said he's the best alive today anyway. I didn't say of all time. I didn't even say my personal favorite. I just say he's definitely on top of rap music right now.

"In DA SOUTH niggas pimp hard and pimp harder/I'm Nike and Adidas to yo Fila and Starter/played out, ain't been cool since eighth grade/fudge packin faggots, and I hate gays..." - H3K

That mp3 of mine is classic. I know you wanted to insert "classic" 3:16. It's all good.

"Ask the women, they know!" Muhammed Ali

I'm out like Macka's compliment on my mp3. Peace!

Real Eyes / Realize / Real Lies

Real Eyes / Realize / Real Lies

Now about AZ joining ROC, the hell I care! I never really liked him. He sounds like a 12-year-old to me, among other things. If I were Nas, I'd be glad to let him go.

As you will notice, I have used my other name today because I miss Baron (who is gonna be filthy rich soon, by the way). Now this name may have been derived from P.Diddy, but, hell, my boy has got nothing to do with that man!

Hill, now why is it that you never believe me when I say something new? OK thats cool, I'll back myself up... go to allhiphop.com , it was somewhere on there a couple of days ago.

"white pac" aint the best, full stop. He gets more airplay because he has more attention on him, he has more attention on him because he's white. Over here, the only hip hop you will hear on a normal radio show (not a rap show) is Nelly (party music for retards), Ja- Rule (Party music for retards featuring J-Lo and Ashanti), or Em.

Oh, and Cam'ron got arrested for possesion of weed and a gun.

I'm out like Bill Clinton in an interns mouth!

Peace

I bury niggas in the Garden like I play for the Knicks-.......me.

This is paraphrased from a local TV station: "Lox rapper Styles P, who has recently released his first solo album was sentenced to 8 months in jail for stabbing a man in the buttocks"! I hope it was only a knife that he used...

"If you put him under a polygraph test dat' shit will probably explode!" -- Canibus dissing LL Cool J on the Sway and King Tec show 2000

Use Real Eyes/ To Realize/ Real Lies -- Kid Giancana

What's tha deally "i net fam"(had to quote that)... because I don't wanna make Q upset now, Do I?

On the really fam, this thread is dyin' slowly, fuck it, this mothafucka's on life support.....but like I said I'm goin' to rep it 'til it's death.

Aight, I see a new topic was bought up in Marshall Mathers bein' the best rapper alive? O.k., o.k. Eminem is nice with his, but I wouldn't give duke the title. I mean there is no doubt that his lyricism and flow are amongst today's finest, but dun does get mad CORNY at times. I tend to turn away from this dude when he makes garbage like "Guess Who's Back", or when he starts spittin' about dead animals and cannibals etc....I feel that duke is a better battle emcee than he is a complete emcee because as I listen to his lp's his subject matter is mad limited. I mean he only talks about himself bein' caucasian and excellin' at an African American art form, or he denounces his family(moms, wife).....shit gets borin' at times. You niggaz know who I feel is the true recipient of this award, and I have reasons to back GOD SON up....so try me

Also, I wouldn't call this guy the "WHITE PAC" because the only things that he borrowed from Pac is his emotion on tracks because his lyrics and flow are way better than Pac's, and Em has a life of controversy that is similar to Pac's. Other than that.......NADA!! And really, you dudes say that Pac is the G.O.A.T. I just wanna know your reasons for THINKING this. I mean come on his LYRICS were STINK, the only album where he came off LYRICALLY was "The Seven Day Theory", and then you still heard the typical...."ENEMIES", "HENESSEY", "ADVISARIES" etc... The only way I can think of dude bein' above the competition is that he showcased more emotions on his joints than anyone else. But again, if that's the case then Ja Rule or DMX should be considered the G.O.A.T. because they too can SCREAM and YELL on their joints.....This is just a thought and my opinion, so you EXTREME DIE HARD Pac fans don't get all gassed and want to take yourselves out or anything of that nature.....

Well that does it for me today.....so until next time......I 1000....**as I leave the scene the crowd is STILL chantin' MVP, MVP, MVP**

"act konceited, increase stash, and embarrass these vets is my motto"- MVP

"Now let me let u niggaz know one thing/ there's only one life, one love, so there can only be ONE KING"-Nas

Everybody's got mad opinions about Eminem, which is cool, but the only one I am sort of feeling is "There ain't no best." True, it all depends on what you like. Some might say Nelly is the best. Some say Luda. Some do a 180 and go for Nas and Jay. Still, I say Eminem is the best. Eminem has the wickedest wordplay and the best delivery and his topics are decent. So what, Eminem might talk about some off the wall Jerry Springer shit? Damn, that just shows his versatility. How many other rappers can rap about fucking a horse on the Sabbath and sacrificing a baby to Fat Bastard and still sell more than two albums? Hell, probably not any (ask D-12)! No other rapper comes close to being able to spit like Em and have the masses feel him. He's the White Pac. There isn't a rapper alive that could tangle with this cat in a lyrical battle. NOT A RAPPER ALIVE...

Damn, Best, how many times can you bring up that hennesy/ememy garbage? I've seen it as many times as I've seen "dun!" Instead of saying that, why don't you note the songs where he says the hennessy/enemy lyrics? Damn, it's no different from GOD DAUGHTER saying, "I'm the N the A the S-I-R, if I wasn't I must have been Escobar!" Damn, Nasty, we know you're Nasir! We heard you on Get Me- self A Glock... or was that You're Da Man? Who knows? They're the exact same damn song with just different beats. Just because Pac didn't exhibit the type of lyrics you (you, that's who) find valuable, doesn't mean he lyrically "stinks." As a matter of fact, I bet a lot of these niggas who find Nas "deep" probably don't even know what the hell he is talking about. Why don't you explain to everybody your favorite Nas quote... oops, let me be more specific cause there's probably 7,129. Explain "I saw a dead bird flyin through a broken sky." A lot of these folks be like "Nas is so deep" simply because they don't actually understand him. A nigga can say something like, "A dead lion held the head of my black people/so I took his head and sacrificed it in a black steeple//now my people are gazing at broken skies/broken dreams, broken promises, but well- kept lies..." Hey, that's actually good. Damn, I'm tight... But my point is, does anybody get that? Well, if you do, you're an idiot cause I didn't say shit. But it sounds deep, right? Not saying that nobody in here actually gets the deep Nas lyrics, I'm just saying I bet 75% of Nas's stans have no idea what he is talking about, but it doesn't sound "watered down" so they flock to this cat. Get real. Nas has no real on mic skills and just impresses small-minded morons with big words and poetic-LOOKING (emphasis on looking) phrases.

3:16, I ain't trying to discredit you, but to say AZ might join the ROC is hard to swallow. You can feel me on that. I looked on the site but couldn't find. Not saying it was there, but you have been known to talk about imaginary family members (lol)... Jokes! I got em!

Y'all niggas NEED to hear Mr. Bigg "Time To Go To Trial." It is pure unbridled comedy at it's finest. Has anybody heard it yet? And another thing... LMAO @ Big J's August 1 post!!!

Oh yeah, Best, since I have now lifted the ban on you, I will go ahead and let you have all the Nchekwube Anonymous comments and B2K comments and B2K's associates. If them four little B2K boys and their associates are your stans, then you can have em. And you can call me an emotional wreck all you want, cuzzin. You can have that. But dun, duke, herb, whammy, sex nigga, etc........... HOW YOU GON DISS MY INTRO?! Aw naw, hell naw, Best, you done up and done it! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and EVERYBODY (especially you and your associates) has imitated (but never duplicated) my outro. And believe me, I don't mind y'all doin "out like" stuff. It's all to the good. But "MVPee" not one of your intros has been good. FUCK OUTTA HERE with that TERRIBLE "Who is it?" GAABAGE! Didn't you learn from it when Qool clowned you in your first encounter? FUCK OUTTA HERE with that STOLEN Bret Hart "Best there is, was, ever will be" slogan! FUCK OUTTA HERE!!! FUCK OUTTA HERE with that OVERUSED, PLAYED OUT MVP CHANT!!! WTF?! Are you some The Rock wanna be with that millions (and millions) of fans shit? FUCK OUTTA HERE with that HORRIBLE ass "and the crowd goes wild" nonsense! FUCK OUTTA HERE! WTF? And FUCK OUTTA HERE with all these UNNECESSARY capitalized words and IRRELEVANT NASIR kockblowin! FUCK OUTTA HERE with "WHOA!" FUCK OUTTA HERE! And FUCK OUTTA HERE with... uh... damn... uh... uh... uh.......... FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!

"Broken dreams, broken promises, but well-kept lies" - H3K

His persona on this thread is NOT mine horribly flipped... but he'd like it to be. HA!

I'm out like GET THE from FUCK OUTTA HERE!!! Peace!

Where are the rhymes heads? huh? oh... here they are...

What, I never, I never danced with the devil/I never, I never said I was a rebel/3:16 to another level/get set, foot on the pedal/3:16 is a lyrical syllable/3:16 its a lyrical miracle/3:16 getting political/and causing mayhem/cos i'm the lyrical gem/when I step to the mic it's all over then/MACKA setting the trend/and i'm bigging up my niggas on the worlds hottest thread

OK... I RELOADED!

Heres the bottom fucking line on the Em discussion... pay attention... Gets more attention cos he's white (regardless whether he can spit or not)... Gets more airplay cos he gets more attention... Gets more mainstream popularity cos he gets more airplay... Gets more sales cos he gets more mainstream popularity. OK hes tight, but he aint that tight.

I'm out like side, get it, OUT, SIDE. OUTSIDE.

Peace

"Niggas be too flashy, ya better learn not to quote that bullshit from Memphis/Talkin' about play yo position/Nigga I'm like a sunbeam at high noon, I'm cautioned to damage ya vision."

And niggas thought I was some God MC or some shit. I mean I have heard way better shit than that! But back to what I was saying, the example shows how people can easily get influenced by a weak metaphor or a big word. But Nas does bring it though on some tracks, no lie. Check out this song called Fetus, it really is a different concept. He talks about his Mom and his dad contemplating abortion while he is still in her womb. And he speaks through the fetus at the trails of his Mom through pregnancy. I don't like the beat, but it is something poetic and a new concept to what rap usually is.

Hollywood you actually think Nas is lyrically a "phony bastard". Come on dawg, you gassin' right? I mean I'm not goin' to knock you for your opinion, but honestly 95% of Nas's joints have some sort of concept, and the other 5% is basically him doing what everyone else in this Crap game is doin' right now and that's the infamous bragger raps.....I don't mean to get off the subject, but speakin' of bragger raps doesn't it seem like Baby from Cash Money spats the SAME FUCKIN' THING on everyone track he's featured on....."Cadillac truck on dem 23's"......FUCK OUTTA HERE!! But on the really Hollywood, you probably don't understand his rhymes because of his lyrical slang. I mean, I probably wouldn't understand wo's lyrics if I weren't from Queens because he uses slangs of which only heads from NY could understand. It's all legit son, but trust me Nas doesn't just throw "unorganized metaphors" in his bars because mad niggaz would denounce this dude.

Now movin' right along, my opinion on Sosa joinin' the ROC would be a horrible move on his part because his style wouldn't fit their criteria. I feel the only reason why Sosa would join them is to increase his income because anything with a Roc-A-Fella logo on it will more than likely sell.....just ask M Easy. He went gold(not that that's bad) but he shouldn't have even sold that much because he is UTTERLY WACK!!

Next subject....lets see....B2K....why are you "talking" to me. I thought I TOLD you that anything you say to me is irrelevent because of your considering F-A-G-O.....(you know the rest) and Nelly Nel good rappers......LMAO.....and this guy says he has a feel for good music....."I'm just kiddin' like Jason"-Nelly......WTF? Aight aight, I guess I'll respond to your blasphemy because I know your emotional/sensitive ass is goin' to be checkin' this site for my response everyday on the day on the day.....So here it is....you said that you want me to note the songs in which Pac says "HENESSEY", "ENEMIES", "ADVASARIES", and "M.O.B."....well try every fuckin' song he has ever put out with the exception of "Dear Moma" and "Brenda's Got A Baby". You see I knew of Pac way before your Country Nappy Roots Po Folks ass even had a radio to witness rap music. When Pac first hit the scene with "2Pacalypse Now" back in '92/'93 spittin' CORNY shit like "Whit my gat ENEMIES gone get checked quick/ After the scene I'ma have to hit the exit"....LMAO....Nas was only 17 years old droppin' classic shit like........ "It ain't hard to tell, I excel, then prevail/ The mic is contacted, I attract clientele// My mic check is life or death, breathin a sniper's breath/ I exhale the yellow smoke of buddha through righteous steps// Deep like The Shinin', sparkle like a diamond/ Sneak a uzi on the island in my army jacket linin// Hit the Earth like a comet, invasion/ Nas is like the Afrocentric Asian, half-man, half-amazin// Cause in my physical, I can express through song/ Delete stress like Motrin, then extend strong// I drank Moet with Medusa, give her shotguns in hell/ From the spliff that I lift and inhale, it ain't hard to tell"..........nothing Pac has ever spat can come close those bars, and the only thing that I would place against it is his verse in "Hail Mary". You must understand that Pac is OVERRATED!! Shit I have joints where him and Bigge were freestylin' together, and Biggie ripped this nigga a new asshole. Also, on "Got My Mind Made Up", Red and Meth lyrically outshined this nigga, so what in the hell makes you think he could stand a chance with Nas. Pac couldn't hold Nas's mic cord. Now don't get me wrong he was the hardest worker in the rap game making like 4 or 5 songs a day, but what's the use of makin' joints when the subject matter on each of them is going to be about dying or ridin' on your ENEMIES....once again the shit gets mad boring. O.k. o.k., he might throw in a joint like "Wonder Why They Called You Bitch", but other than that it's the same "Dear Lord don't let me die tonight" trash. And why do niggaz always wanna criticize Nas for makin' shit like "Oochie Wally" and "You Owe Me" when Pac made numerous garbage sex songs like "What's Your Phone Number" and "All About U"? But on the really, these comments are by no means to offend any of you DIE HARD PAC WORSHIPERS, but if you take it the wrong way (hint).......I don't give a damn.

Lastly B2A(drian), I could care less about a damn intro or outro. It seems like your really strivin' to win an award for this shit....LMAO....nigga your garbage.....purchase a life....go get some pussy or somethin'. You know he's a WAMMY when this nigga discusses what goes on at this site with his friends. I bet this nigga be real excited speakin' about us with his friends.....LMAO. Then the bad thing about it is that I dissed his intro and outro and called him an emotional wreck in like a post that's about 2/3 weeks old, and that post is still on his mind.....ROTFLMAO at this prick. Well that does it here for me, I think I addressed everything that I felt that needs to be addressed.....so......

**As I leave the crowd screams..."DAMN MVP, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO B2K LIKE THAT, DID YOU?**

"I was high smokin' so much la/ I saw a dead bird flyin' through a broken sky"-Nas...you can't figure that out....I see why you like Nelly.

Nothin else to say man, 3:16's eating chicken!

"3:16 is a lyrical syllable" - Macka

Peace

But since then, (was it since then?) you’ve been saying Tupac wasn’t really that good. You know you couldn’t have just changed your opinion like that. You betta explain!

Oh and, wow, you once called Nas gay?!

3:16, how in the world can Pac be overrated as a musician? This is not basketball or some kind of sport. This is music. All you have to do is listen to it. Y'all can talk about how Pac didn't do it for you personally as a musician, but to say he is overrated is pure nonsense! How can the man be overrated and still top charts more than any wanna be rapper in this day and age? 90% of the rap game is some kind of EXACT REPLICA or LAME ASS TANGENT of Tupac Shakur. Every rapper would love to do what Pac did in rap. "A few standout tracks?" Are you serious? "Dear Mama" "Me Against The World" "I Get Around" "Pain" "Ambitionz Az A Ridah" "Hit Em Up" "Brenda's Got A Baby" "All About U" "Smile" "Got My Mind Made Up" "Keep Ya Head Up" "2 Of Amerika's Most Wanted" "No More Pain" "Heartz of Men" "Life Goes On" "California Love" "Soldier Story" "Let's Get It On" "Thug Luv" "Holla At Me" "I Ain't Mad At Cha" "All Eyez On Me" "Rather Be Ya N.I.G.G.A." "Toss It Up" "Hail Mary" "Bomb First" "Blasphemy" "Krazy" "Me And My Girlfriend" "Against All Odds" "Fuckin With The Wrong Nigga" "Thug Passion" "Picture Me Rollin" "Fuck Y'all" "Do For Love" "Changes" "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto" "White Man's World" etcetera, etecetra... And I'm sure that ain't even every standout song! And when did his lyrics leave "a lot to be desired?" Explain, please! More hennessy/enemy repetitive trash? More exaggerations off of one or two songs he did? Ok, ok, ok, the only song off the top of my head where he says "adversaries" is "No More Pain." And yeah, he said M-O-B a lot, but DAMN, that was his trademark! The man sold 5 million copies almost 8 years ago - before hip-hop carried the weight it does now, and he STILL sells more than most any rapper could have a wet dream about. And I only mention his sales cause that's a SMALL part of why he's the GOAT. Now, I just wanna hear why his lyrics left a lot to be desired and what were his standout tracks in your view.

MVPee, the funniest thing you said in that whole ten page essay was "Meth and Red lyrically outshined Pac." Dun, don't make me bring you into my office of judging MCs and beat you with my briefcase! "Got my gunpowder and my muskets... BLAUW!!!" Is that what does it for you? "The Mr. Meth Tical, from Staten Isle, we'll be back after this message don't touch the dial..." That's the shit you get off on? I liked Meth's verse, true, but how does that outshine Pac? And Red's verse shouldn't even be in this debate. "Nonbelievers get my dick and genitals backwards..." Oooooooooh! Ahhhhhhhhhhh! But if those are tight lyrics to you, then so be it. But other funny things about your essay was the fact that you never could give anybody a specific song about that hennessy/enemy nonsense you ALWAYS (ALWAYS, dun!) bring up. Then there were the same dick in the bootie "jokes" about DA SOUTH that you used on the old board. ARTICHOKES! Or was it ORANGES? Well, whatever it is, I gather you know the rest, silly kanedroppin Nigger-ian... And then you have the gumption to call me a "whammy" for mentioning B2K to my friends at Waffle House, when you were the "Herb-be HANDcock" ass nigga who couldn't let a post go by without "informing" us about every goddam detail of your pledge life! Like we were your best friends and shit! FUCK OUTTA HERE!!! And then he has the gumption to say I like Nelly (WTF? FUCK OUTTA HERE! I never said that, dummy) and proceed to NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION about "Favorite Nas Quote #3,342" (i.e. smokin weed, deceased bird, broken sky, yadda, yadda, yadda). And to top it off, Herb B. actually thinks I gave a rat's ass about him calling me an emotional wreck! Dun, the post may be old, but it's not like I can't scroll up and see it on the screen, you moron! And I couldn't respond then because my 1 meeeeeellion (dollars) aliases had you on a post ban. Unlike YOU, I keep my word. However, I thought you weren't gonna "talk" to me about music? Hmmmmmmmm... I know, Kaptain Hate, you always sayin H3K ain't right, but you want us to go together like Day and Night (copyright Jadakiss)...

Faye, we asked Nchekwube a long time ago about all those posts, and he "claims" it was an imposter. Claims. However, the real Nchekwube has numerous times called Pac the greatest MC of all time, just not the best lyricist. So all of his Pac hating now could be seen as mindboggling hypocrisy if you actually expected more from him.

"Broken dreams, broken promises, but well-kept lies..." - H3K

His persona on this thread is NOT mine... but he'd like it to be.

I'm out like my awards for Most Popular Outro and Illest Flow On The Net. Peace!

I also said Fabolous doesn't suck (if you can read - it may not be Ebo, but I thought you understood English), and I like a few of his verses. But if I were to pick a rapper to quote after every damn post, I'd pick F-A-G-O-L-O-U-S before I'd pick Chino Xtra-medium" and (g)AZ. And I said Nelly has a garbage flow and wack lyrics, but somehow manages to find good beats that work with his terrible mic skills.

"Dun, don't make me bring you into my office of judging MCs and beat you with my briefcase!" - H3K

I'm out like Chino "Smedium" and (g)AZ. Peace!

MVPee, it almost slipped my mind, but WHY in the hell do you post and and say, "No time for the intro/outro?" FUCK OUTTA HERE! It must take all of, what, 30 seconds to do that "Who is it" travesty of an intro and you can't spare the time to do that? So how is it you make jokes about my post frequency (sorry, I can afford the internet), but it seems as if you'll post when you have only a few minutes to spare? If you can't spend 30 seconds on your garbage outro how can you find time to post?! Hmmmmmmm... if I didn't know any better, I'd say you use every spare second that you have remaining in your AIDS-riddled African life to post against H3K... And since I know how much you love seeing H3K on your computer screen......... H to the 3 to the K! H3K!

"You love me, really..." - 3:16

I'm out like spare time for Herb B. Peace!

The New and Untouchable

(sigh) this is actually an effort to redeem myself.

Yeah, I know all about that AZ going to the ROC thing was rocky but I did only say "he might". POINT TAKEN.

I just got a CD full, uh-huh, FULL of diss tracks. OK Jaz-O vs the ROC might be pretty tight but he should have realised the ROC wouldn't just lie down on him. Dude getting mad just cos Hove dont put him on all his tracks. the JD vs Dre diss is better than I thought. KRS DESTROYED Nelly the Elephant (What Nellys new album called anyway? Nellycopter, Nellyphant, Nellyvision? I dont know!).

Get ready for me to put down some spits, Its been a while and i need to warm my lyrical vertebre up again.

I'm out like me after I won 2 flights to Ibiza

Peace

"Uh, uh, uh, I commandeered rap with the first written flow I typed/wit and intelligence exhibited in every single flow I write//lyrical insight unmatched; that makes me a visionary/dedicated to saving rap; that makes me a missionary//I'm not affected by other "rapper's" blah, yadda, and blase, blase/por que soy la cabesa de la clase//just when you think I've peaked, I let you know that you ain't seen shit/the potential is limitless, so is the arsenal, nah mean, kid?//I'm mad fresh in the whip that I be flossin in/so if you man want to test me, I suggest you caution him//cause you bout to lose a friend, HILL will bring the blues to him/old school puttin up the dukes, boxin him and bruisin him//rewind time, choose again, make sure that he choose to win/the thing to do is bounce cause HILL don't fuck with foolish men//spit so ill, medicine gets sick off of my flow/H3K, an MC All-Star, the lyrical All-Pro..."

Yeah, somebody said lyrics.

I'm out like the Florida State influence should be from them ugly ass new Redskins jerseys. Peace!

Dont know if its true but i heard that Gay-Z has challenged Nas to a freestyle battle and the winner gets a million dollars to give to charity? Also I heard faggoty ass Nelly will be in a movie? arent we safe anywhere from the gayness?! I am also somewhat dissapoint Philly traded my boy Mutumbo to the Nets but we are probably a better team now though.

Anyway, "Weak Van Corn" is not the second scorer Philly needed. They need somebody who can create on their own like A.I. and not some slow, sorry white guy. ANd 18 points a game may be good in high school, but in the NBA that ain't shit. Plus Van "P"orn ain't got NO defense. That was a horrible trade. As a matter of fact, why did they get rid of MacCulloch in the first place just to take him back? What the hell was Philly thinking? And with Mutumbo dominating the middle, that allows the Net guards to D real tight cause they know they got the Mount backin them up! I say this helps the Nets big time and fucks the Sixers. Poor A.I. First his wife fucks his cousin after he boots her out buck naked and now he loses his inside presence. What the fuck is goin on? Oh well......... LAKER FOUR PEAT!!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!

I'm out like the playoffs for The Answer. Peace!

I'm out like Part 2 to Part 3. Peace!

the damn man.

“Oh, and Cam'ron got arrested for possesion of weed and a gun.

I'm out like Bill Clinton in an interns mouth!”

A unique chapter in ILM history

just recently I was remembering the halcyon days of these threads, it's wonderful to imagine their principals now grown people out there in the world, the former indefatigable regulars of the Nas vs. Jay-Z thread

i used to imagine just one guy writing all this.

"In da South niggas pimp hard and pimp harder / I'm Nike and Adidas to yo Fila and Starter"

Googled for this and my top hit was Naomi Klein's NO LOGO

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