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I'm going to Delaware for spring break to look at colleges, and it's going to be pretty boring. I'm making a run to Best Buy and Barnes and Noble's tomorrow to get stuff, and I was wondering if anyone knew of good books about music. We're going for fun to read here, since I need something that doesn't take too long to get into. I've already read Never Mind the Pollacks (which was great), and my closest Barnes and Noble's has Our Band Could be Your Life and that uncensored oral history of punk book that was on the OC three weeks ago.

WillSommer, Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Perfect Sound Forever
The Music's All That Matters
What Rock Is All About
Lipstick Traces
Just Kill Me
Psychotic Reactions & Carburetor Dung
The Aesthetics of Rock
Krautrocksampler

little ivan, Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Get the Lester Bangs books.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link

and Please Kill Me: The Oral History of Punk by Legs McNeil

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Please Kill Me was on the OC?

Please kill me.

Oh well. Read it anyway. It's amazing. And Our Band Could Be Your Life. If you're interested in criticism, check out Psychotic Reactions and Carbeurator Dung or anything by Lester Bangs or one or two Greil Marcus books (The Basement Tapes). I'd stay away from Camden Joy, contrary to popular opinion.

I need something that doesn't take too long to get into

But you're going to college, man! Just buy Adorno's Essays on Music and accept that the next 4+ years of your life are going to be like that mwahahaha...

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave Marsh, The Heart of Rock & Soul (his 1,001 most important singles of the rock era, in bite-size nuggets)

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Love Saves the Day and Can't Stop Won't Stop by Tim Lawrence and Jeff Chang, respectively.

I also enjoyed Last Night a DJ Saved My Life and there's the ever-classic Generation Ecstasy.

deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

conflict of interest, but whatever:
Christoph Cox and Daniel Warner, Audio Culture: Readings in Modern Music
featuring Eno, Cage, Stockhausen, Merzbow, Reynolds, lots of other luminaries, and some jerk named Sherburne

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Hellfire,
Unsung Heroes of Rock and Roll- Tosches
Faithfull: An Autobiography- Marianne Faithfull
Chronicles v.1- Dylan
Black Monk Time- Eddie Shaw
I, Tina- Tina Turner
Uptight: the VU story,
Transformer- Bockris
Planet Joe- Joe Cole
hahahha

Elisa (Elisa), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

John Cage's Silence is a great book about music and other things.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:15 (nineteen years ago) link

All of the above, and Sidney Bechet's autobio (blanking on the title, but he only wrote one); Miles by Miles Davis; Rip It Up: The Black Experience in Rock 'N' Roll (Kandia Crazy Horse, ed.)

don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Robert Palmer (not the singer)'s Deep Blues, Christgau's 70s Consumer Guide (yeah you can look up all the Consumer Guide entries at robertchristgau.com, 'cept maybe the *most* recent, which are at villagevoice.com, but unless you just love typing in Subjects and hitting Enter and know exactly what to look for, the book is a lot more fun). Also most anything by Peter Guralnick (although I woouldn't start with the Elvis stuff)(if you want to get strung out ona good sick Elvis book, try Evis Aron Presley, by Alanna Nash with the Memphis Mafia) Most anything by Frith, Toop; Charles Keil' Uran Blues; Tom T. Hall's The Storyteller's Nashville (one of the funniest books I've read re musos, and good serious stuff too); Nelson Goerge's Seduced: The Life And Times Of A One Hit Wonder; Pamela Des Barres' I'm With The Band; Ruth Brown's Miss Rhythm (an epic!)

don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Ahh yeah Rap Attack by Toop. Does Greg Tate have any books out there worth picking up?

deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Does Greg Tate have any books out there worth picking up?

I had never heard of Tate until I saw him speak not long ago. He is a BAD. ASS. Does he still write for The Voice? I feel like I never see him in there. Does he have a blog?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:56 (nineteen years ago) link

He definitely still writes for the voice, unbelievable writer too, sort of a marxist approach to hip-hop these days (as SFJ pointed out) which seems to distance him from discussing how the music moves him but which does raise significant points regarding hip-hop and the way it is being used both positively and negatively; I got sort of nuts at him during the "great tate debate" when he criticized people for celebrating the 30th anniversary of hip-hop and while I don't share his lack of enthusiasm/engagement with the current music, I do think he's absolutely right about what hip-hop's significance is (paraphrasing, renders African-Americans "all but invisible" in a cultural sense) and that unfortunately the advancement of African-American cultural capital has not resulted in economic justice or any kind of justice, really.

I'm mostly interested in reading a book of his since his prose is fairly magnificent.

deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link

r. crumb draws the blues - r. crumb
country - nick tosches (his other books too of course, but this is my favorite)
rythm oil and the true adventures of the rolling stones by stanley booth
awopbopaloobop by nik cohn

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 17 March 2005 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Touching From A Distance
Bass Culture
Songs They Don't Play On The Radio
Revolution In The Head
Rotten: No Dogs, No Blacks , No Irish
Soulsville

wtin, Thursday, 17 March 2005 10:56 (nineteen years ago) link

"Wonderland Avenue" - Danny Sugerman - I can't stand The Doors but I loved this book. Also, "The Dirt", the Motley Crue book. Again, hate the band, but a cracking read.

bg, Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Tate's 1991 collection Flyboy in the Buttermilk is tremendous. His review/demolition of Bad ("I'm White! What's Wrong with Michael Jackson") is worth the price by itself, especially when he sez that the album's title "accurately describes its contents in standard English."

If you want a cracking funny read on hip-hop, though, pick up The Rough Guide to Hip-Hop by Peter Shapiro, which has just been updated and enlarged (it was a pocket-size the first time, now it's 8 x 10). Best line goes to the Bad Boy Records writeup, when he notes that Puff Daddy, having been responsible for 40% of all 1997's number ones, moved to the Hamptons "so he could live by the sea, just like his magic dragon namesake."

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

actually, strike that "though," Toop can be funny and obviously so can Tate.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Neil McCormick's "Killing Bono" was a quick, fun read.

John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

"Wonderland Avenue" - Danny Sugerman - I can't stand The Doors but I loved this book. Also, "The Dirt", the Motley Crue book. Again, hate the band, but a cracking read.

Same here! (Of course there's also the Led Zep bio.)

nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

ooh, haven't read that led zep one. I just remembered a book called "Lost in Music" by Giles Smith, which was a hoot.

bg, Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link

chuck berry's autobiog

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

George Jones, I Lived To Tell It All
Miles Davis, Miles: The Autobiography

Next week on "The O.C.": Seth and Ryan get into a fatal disagreement over "James Taylor: Marked For Death," while Summer meets a new hottie who shares her disgust of Nick Hornby.

Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Nelson George's previously mentioned Seduced is said to roman-a-clef of sorts (Russell Simmons, on back cover of early edition, earnestly denies that one of the characters is based on him--that's his whole blurb). Some wicked bits about the early days of hip-hop, and the music biz overall. The sequel, Urban Romance, spotlights a minor Seduced charactor, who writes for Billboard and the Voice. Haven't read it yet, but it's next. Tate's Everything But The Burden, about whites biting black music, is another I've heard good stuff about.

don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

For a good time, read:

Dino by Nick Tosches (about Dean Martin; as deep as Catch a Fire by Timothy White, as entertaining as that Motley Crue book)

Backbeat: Earl Palmer's Story, by Tony Scherman (oral history/autobiography of the New Orleans drummer; had me at "Louis Armstrong was a pimp"...)

We Got the Neutron Bomb: The Untold Story of L.A. Punk by Marc Spitz and Brendan Mullen (better than Please Kill Me, kind of like L.A. punk itself)

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's TSOL frontman Jack Grisham in We Got the Neutron Bomb, before he announced his run for governor against Gray Davis and Arnold Schwarzenegger (and Gary Coleman, etc.):

I was torturing this guy in the garage of my mom's house in this nice suburban neighborhood with my whole family inside eating Easter dinner... and I'd got this guy tied up in the rafter with a rope around his legs and I'm beating him with a two-by-four. I said, "Hang on a minute," and put the two-by-four down and walked into the house and kissed my aunt and said like, "Oh hi, how you doing?" I grabbed a deviled egg, told them I'd be back in a minute, and I went back out, grabbed the two-by-four, and kept workin' on the guy. I finally had to get out of Vicious Circle 'cause of the violence. There were constant stabbings and beatings and people cruising by my house at night, shooting up the neighborhood....

I did something pretty bad to somebody and they retaliated with guns. It was a big deal, I had to split to Alaska for a while, they cut the lines on my car, blew up my car... fuck...I don't wanna say who they were, but they weren't punks... boy, they were pissed off.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link

'Long Time Gone' the David Crosby (auto)biog is definitely the best music book i have ever read. the way he led his life and some of the decisions he made are genuinely stupefying. equal parts genius and retard. extraordinary when set against the soundtrack of the music he was making.

i went on holiday with the Deborah Curtis book and the Nick Drake biography once. happy times, let me tell you.

Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

dino is so good that i've lent and lost TWO copies to (so-called) friends

if you ever find dave rimmer's "once upon a time in the east", abt berlin east and west b4 the fall of the wall, i utterly UTTERLY recommend it: tho it's only somewhat abt music - unlike his earlier (and also good) "like punk never happened"

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I've just got "Lost in the Grooves" by the editors of Scram (the same peeps who did "Bubblegum Music is the Naked Truth"), a collection of reviews of culty, forgotten or neglected albums. Some very ILM choices in there: Jandek, Poster Children, Bridgette Fontaine etc. If only slsk was working properly...

Richard C (avoid80), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I wrote a few entries for Lost In The Grooves (Boogie Down Productions, Schoolly D, Sonny Sharrock).

Joe Carducci's Rock and the Pop Narcotic is being reissued sometime this year.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

and how could i forget, the funniest rock-related book ever: the life and times of little richard by charles white.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost the David Crosby book has sections with different versions side by side, like the Synoptic Gospels: the Word according to St. David, his friends and ex-friends. But certainly not Gospel in the I-swung-naked-on-the-chandelier-but-now-I've-found-the-LORDuh (so send your dollars to my new friends today). He's got his regrets, but still the somae ornery critter ("Don't do crack, and also watch out for the CIA/Colobian Cartels, man," is more the POV)

don, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Bass Culture
Sadly retitled in America as The History of Jamaica's music or something like that, but it's excellent. The only disappointing aspect about it is that Lloyd Bradley doesn't cover any On-U-Sound releases in the book or even take them into account.

Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm just finishing this, I like it, but it could have used a little bit more demographic and geographic background info on Jamaica and Kingston in particular.

JoB (JoB), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Nick Kent's "The Dark Stuff"
"Alt-Rock-o-Rama" (great on car trips!)
Brian Eno's "More Dark than Shark"
Motley Crue's "The Dirt" (well, not about music, per se)

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Blissed Out is still my favorite Simon Reynolds book. Jon Savage's England's Dreaming (see recent thread on him); Chuck Eddy's Stairway To Hell and Accidental Evolution; a couple of good anthologies: ROck She Wrote and Trouble Girls.

don, Friday, 18 March 2005 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link

that book "Hip: A History" isn't strictly about music but it's also very good. I think the author's name is John Leland.

Ashandeej, Friday, 18 March 2005 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Audio Culture (edited cox / warner) seconded, and limiting myself to the books next to my desk (library's in the hallway)

Electronic and Experimental Music by Thom Holmes
also; Wireless Imagination (d kahn / g whitehead)
Paul Griffiths - A Concise History of Avant-Garde Music
Paul Griffiths - Modern Music And Beyond
Curtis Roads
William Duckworth : Talking Music
Cage: Silence / A Year From Monday
Cage / Feldman: Conversations
James Tenney : Meta / Hodos
Karlheinz Stockhausen - Stockhausen on Music (Compiled by R Maconie)
Sound By Artists (ed. Dan Lander)
Chris Cutler - File Under Popular
Attali - Noise
Russolo - The Art of Noises (get a hold of a copy any way you can)
Trevor Wishart - On Sonic Art
Douglas Kahn - Noise Water Meat

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 18 March 2005 07:13 (nineteen years ago) link

milton, has "modern music and beyond" been updated at all?: when i first read it (= in like 1977), i remember thinking "waddya mean beyond"!! it stops in 1968 with a sad thud!!

i think the attali book is lousy at book length—it's a good short polemic idea bulked out to a contradictory nonsense schema—and wireless imagination is patchy (which is a pity, cz it's a great idea for an essay collection)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

really good things I've read over the last few months were adorno's bk on mahler and morton feldman's 'give my regards to 8th street' essay comp.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 18 March 2005 09:55 (nineteen years ago) link

weird, I stopped reading Neutron Bomb halfway through--bored me for some reason, though the stories weren't in themselves boring. hmmm. (though it may be because I've never been all that into L.A. punk and like NYC punk way more.)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 18 March 2005 10:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"Bass Culture" seconded - terminally readable, even if you don't much care about the stuff (which I do); as much of a cultural history as anything else. There's a certain integrity to his (not total, by any means, but pronounced) dismissal of Dancehall (and I do sometimes hear, say, Bounty Killer a bit differently now that I've read about the jamaican warlords and can't just pretend it's all fun "hey let's pretend we're Al Pacino" wackyness), but I do sorta wish he had just stopped when "his" age was over.

The Elvis Guralnick books - again, you don't have to care about the subject matter to enjoy them (personally, I was so-so on Elvis before readin' 'em, am now an unabashed fan), and the second one is one hell of a car wreck: the descent starts like twenty pages into it, and by the end of the book you can't even feel sorry for the guy anymore, you just wonder why he hasn't kicked the bucket already.

"Where Did Our Love Go?" by Nelson George has some nice anecdotes, and is probably the best book on Motown around, tho to be frank I didn't learn all that much from it.

"The Heart Of Rock & Soul" seconded, and throw in the "New Book Of Rock Lists" too, if only for the sheer joy of reading the sentence "Tragedy The Intelligent Hoodlum Lists..." over and over again (not that book of rock jokes, tho, that was awful.) And also "Fortunate Son: The Best Of Dave Marsh", great stuff on Elvis, Muddy Waters, latino rock, etc.

I remember reading Maryiln Manson's "The Long Hard Road Out Of Hell" in my early teens and being surprised by how good it was (I'd always loathed the guy's music.) Dunno if it holds up.

"Sweet Soul Music", hell yeah.

I've read the entirety of Christgau's consumer guide online, and there's some great, great stuff there. So the books are recommended, too.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Brother Ray by Ray Charles with David Ritz is fantastic and amazingly blunt and candid.

shookout (shookout), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

'Joe Carducci's Rock and the Pop Narcotic is being reissued sometime this year.'

yay I've been wanting to read that one for a while!

adding to my prev post here leroi jones 'blues people' which I just finished this morning: most gd bks on music accept that they aren't just abt notes and chords.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i think the attali book is lousy at book length"

You mean it's not long enough? I loved the book. Should re-read it...

I also loved the Lexicon Devil (bio on Darby Crash) though it's certainly not essential...

nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

All my obvious suggestions are covered here, so let me just say: even if you're a die-hard, passionate, blacked-out-yr-own-teeth Joe Strummer/Clash fan, AVOID AT ALL COSTS the pile of dung known as "Let Fury Have the Hour: the Punk Rock Politics of Joe Strummer." The superficial "analysis," the copious mistakes (London Calling wasn't recorded in New York, dumbshit!), the TYPOS (?!?)...it's a massacree!

Jason Toon, Friday, 18 March 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

African Rhythm and African Sensibility by John Miller Chernoff

the ONLY thing wrong with JMC's line is that he somewhat slightly seems to accept the assumption that the social dimension—the "dance"—isn’t also always part of all music in the West (though he does this in the context of getting ppl to see/hear/look for the fuller sense of the meaning of music): taking his insights abt Africa (Ghana, to be more accurate) and applying them everywhere else is revelatory

Most of it is a charming telling of him learning African drumming in Ghana

mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

The only two lengthy reads on Led Zep - Stephen Davis' Hammer of the Gods and roadie Richard Cole's 'Stairway to Heaven,' are both pulpy and full of dirt and invented mythology. Not to say I don't recommend them though.

And I hope someone someday undertakes a lengthy Sabbath bio.

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked this review of my book from the classical site Sequenza21:

Philip Freeman: In the Brewing Luminous: The Life & Music of Cecil Taylor (Wolke Verlag)

The first book-length biography of one of America’s most innovative musicians is something of a specialty read: Taylor’s life story isn’t as fascinating as Sun Ra or Miles Davis, and Freeman isn’t as gifted a raconteur as John Szwed or Quincy Troupe. But fans of Taylor’s music will find this an essential volume, tracing his career, influences, and—to an extent anyway—his personal life. Freeman downplays the oft-claimed importance of Messiaen, sympathizing with critics who consider the connection between Taylor’s playing and European atonality “superficial”. Freeman does concede that during Taylor’s time at New England Conservatory, Messiaen visited Boston for the premiere of Turangalîla and a performance of the Quartet for the End of Time that featured one of Taylor’s professors on cello. One interesting connection that Freeman does make is with Richard Twardzik, an obscure New England pianist whose playing combined Bud Powell, Erroll Garner and Schoenberg.

Freeman confirms what’s long been known in private about Taylor’s sexuality, revealing that although Taylor was rarely open about his homosexuality, he understood his attraction to men from an early age (leading to an estrangement from his father). Taylor’s use of cocaine to help fuel his hyperactive marathon solo sessions is also acknowledged. Freeman portrays his subject as socially awkward, sacrificing almost everything for his music, and William Parker is quoted about Taylor’s seeming lack of empathy. But there’s otherwise relatively little insight into what made up the personality of such a complex, driven man. I could have also used more detail about Taylor’s aesthetic philosophy, including his Afrocentric view of musical structure in relation to the human body. But the dutiful chronicling of recording and performance dates and personnel will be useful to aficionados, and there’s no denying the importance of this volume in furthering our understanding of this controversial and enigmatic musician.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 2 January 2025 22:25 (one month ago) link

I'm about to finish "3 Shades of Blue" by James Kaplan, a Christmas present. I've enjoyed it but not sure I'd call it a "good" book about music necessarily. Mostly it's comprised of information from major biographies of Miles Davis, John Coltrane, and Bill Evans by Davis/Troupe, Lewis Porter, and Peter Pettinger, respectively, so if you've read these three, you might skip. It's not clear to me what the book is about exactly -- something about how Kind of Blue was some kind of special moment in music before free jazz and the Beatles changed American culture? Mercifully he doesn't dwell on this or try to formulate some kind of thesis, he's just sort of hinting at different things in an impressionistic way while mostly focusing on the chronology and on the details, the people, the recording engineers, girlfriends, fans, protegés, songs, compositions, and anecdotes -- all of which is great of course. Lots of fuel for listening and re-listening.

I enjoyed the sprinkling of biography into the book ("The first time I heard this I was..." type things) but didn't really care for his middlebrow rock critic taste hierarchies, which are mercifully few and far between and not too intrusive.

Ultimately it's very easy to read and has an inspired me to brush up on my Miles chronology / sidemen knowledge, and also to spin lots of records. So a thumbs up

budo jeru, Friday, 3 January 2025 00:29 (one month ago) link

I just got sent the David Toop book on Dr John's Gris Gris 2 Headed Doctor for my birthday. Not read beyond the intro so far but looks fantastic. Nice of my brother to connect it with my tastes cos I hadn't requested it. Looking forward to getting to read it.

He also sent me the MC5 oral history which I did ask for. I think I may have read part of it elsewhere cos I think there is an element of anthologising pre published material but good to have a nice thick history with a few photos I don't remember seeing before. Would still love an actual photo book showing off the clothing that wives and girlfriends were making for them.

For Xmas I got a personal copy of Joe Boyd's & The Roots Of Rhythm Remain. I have read half of the book as a library loan but there's a long queue for copies and only a handful in the system.
Fantastic look into various ethnic musics he has had some personal contact with. Pretty long at 800+ pages. So wondering if anybody is getting through the thing before not being able to renew it, though I guess most people aren't reading several things at the same time. Particularly since it is a pretty fascinating read.
He looks into tracks which organically grow into biographies and possibly histories. So there's a level of amorphousness involved. I'm really enjoying it anyway.

Stevo, Friday, 3 January 2025 07:57 (one month ago) link

A second Zoomcast with Chuck Eddy for my music-video book:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2KU1BDQKh0

clemenza, Saturday, 11 January 2025 18:43 (one month ago) link

I’m slowly reading that Joe Boyd book. It’s going to take me a while! Almost at the end of the Cuba section and it’s super impressive but tbh my eyes are kinda glazing over each time he mentions a new NYC or Cuban bandleader. It’s just sooo much information, I’m having trouble keeping up. Looking forward to wrapping up this section and getting to Jamaica, India, Brazil in particular.

tobo73, Saturday, 11 January 2025 23:46 (one month ago) link

I saw there was at least one Spotify playlist up for it.
Boyd seems to have avoided pinning things to a discography which seemed a shame.
I got through half of the book then had to return it to library. Now own a copy so need to pick it up again.

Stevo, Sunday, 12 January 2025 01:45 (one month ago) link

I still need to get the Boyd book

curmudgeon, Sunday, 12 January 2025 22:57 (one month ago) link

Slightly related to Joe, I'm greatly enjoying Rose Simpson's book about her time in The Incredible String band, she has a very intricate way of describing what it must have been like living in that era.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 12 January 2025 23:08 (one month ago) link

Boyd’s book White Bicycles is terrific as well, if yall haven’t read it.

brimstead, Sunday, 12 January 2025 23:27 (one month ago) link

^this

James Carr Thief (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 January 2025 23:40 (one month ago) link

I have a great set in my digital library of a thing Boyd did w/ Robyn Hitchock, where Boyd reads from White Bicycles and then Hitchcock covers Dylan, The Move, Incredible String Band, Fairport Convention, Nick Drake and Pink Floyd.

dan selzer, Monday, 13 January 2025 03:43 (one month ago) link

I saw them do that live, great fun!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 13 January 2025 03:53 (one month ago) link

ha I did not dig the White Bicycles book, he's a bit of a name dropper

a (waterface), Monday, 13 January 2025 14:05 (one month ago) link

Some people just know and have worked with a lot of famous people. I think he’s earned the privilege.

dan selzer, Monday, 13 January 2025 14:16 (one month ago) link

yeah totally but i thought it messed up the writing and got the stories off track. and it came off as brag a licious

recently i've read the Steve Wynn, the Elijah Wald/Dave Von Ronk and the Wald Dylan books, and Mark E. Smith's Renegade. All were really excellent, the Walds were my favs.

a (waterface), Monday, 13 January 2025 14:27 (one month ago) link

Wynn kinda name drops too but he's a great writer and the stories are interesting.

a (waterface), Monday, 13 January 2025 14:28 (one month ago) link

Trying to think. If namedropping bugs you would you like the latest one. Seems to be him following personal ties to some degree. So might put you off.
I think I've thought both were good but I read White Bicycles back a lot closer to release and I'm not sure if I have since.

I think I enjoy him greatly anyway.
Would like more. Has the new one been an Ongoing project for most of the interval between. That and remastering various things or organising that at least.

Stevo, Monday, 13 January 2025 14:28 (one month ago) link

I really liked Rose Simpson's book. Would recommend it if you just want an inside look at what that life was like (communal living while being in ISB, the not-very-swingin' aspects of the Sixties et.al).

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 13 January 2025 14:42 (one month ago) link

oooooh

a (waterface), Monday, 13 January 2025 14:51 (one month ago) link

got three new music books for Christmas, not sure which to read first:

Rumba on the River: A History of the Popular Music of the Two Congos - Gary Stewart
To Anyone Who Ever Asks: The Life, Music, and Mystery of Connie Converse - Howard Fishman
Neu Klang: The Definitive History of Krautrock - Christoph Dallach

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 13 January 2025 15:43 (one month ago) link

got neu klang too!

nxd, Monday, 13 January 2025 15:44 (one month ago) link

The Dallach book is interesting if you're a long-standing krautrock fan, but it's definitely not a good entry point for newcomers.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 13 January 2025 15:45 (one month ago) link

I wrote about it back in September in my newsletter:

I bought Christoph Dallach’s Neu Klang: The Definitive History of Krautrock despite not being a particularly obsessive fan of the music filed under that heading. I love Tangerine Dream’s early ’70s albums, especially 1972’s Zeit, and Can’s albums with vocalist Damo Suzuki (Tago Mago, Ege Bamyasi and Future Days), and Klaus Schulze’s 1970s work. I like Kraftwerk. I like the first Neu! album. I know I’ve heard Amon Düül II’s Yeti, and have listened to a surprising number of Faust albums, though the only ones I really like are Outside the Dream Syndicate, their collaboration with violinist Tony Conrad, and 1994’s Rien, which some say was as much a Jim O’Rourke creation as a Faust album. (I saw Faust live sometime in the late ’90s. I don’t remember anything about the music, only that one of the members set off a road flare, filling the entire club with smoke as thick as dryer lint.) But I wouldn’t call myself well versed in Krautrock. (Do Kraftwerk even count, honestly?)

Still, the book proved to be very interesting. And that’s at least in part because it seemed to align with something I think too many music writers ignore, namely the connections between seemingly discrete events and actors in a particular cultural environment at a given time. A “scene” typically exists not just in conversation with itself, but with all the other “scenes” bubbling up at the same time. One of the best books to really grapple with this is Will Hermes’ Love Goes to Buildings on Fire: Five Years in New York That Changed Music Forever, which explores the music being made in NYC between 1973 and 1977 in as much detail as possible, from salsa and hip-hop uptown to punk rock, minimalist composition, and loft jazz downtown. It’s panoramic and kaleidoscopic at once, and it’ll upend almost any preconception you might have had about that decade and that artistic milieu.

Neu Klang does something similar, perhaps even larger, by placing Krautrock (a term created by a Virgin Records marketing executive and quickly picked up by journalists) into the context of postwar German society. The majority of the musicians interviewed were children in the 1950s, and they talk about growing up in a country that…well, as Can drummer Jaki Liebezeit (born in 1938) puts it, “Most of the teachers in my schooldays had a Nazi past…By 1968 the war was only twenty years ago, and plenty of Third Reich mud had stuck. What we did then with Can had a lot to do with clearing away that past.”

Beyond the issue of de-Nazification, which seems to have been half-hearted at best, the overwhelming sense the reader gets is of extreme poverty. Peter Baumann, an early member of Tangerine Dream, recalls, “My first memories of Berlin start around ten years after the war. What’s stuck with me is that there wasn’t any fruit. When things were going well, my parents would get us an orange once a week, which we shared between the four of us.”

When the discussion moves to music, Dallach’s approach shows that “Krautrock” was in fact part of a broad movement in late ’60s German culture that encompassed all the arts, as well as left-wing politics, sexual experimentation, and more. He doesn’t just interview the members of notable bands like Can, Faust, Amon Düül II and others; he also talks to free jazz players Alexander Von Schlippenbach and Peter Brötzmann, who knew the rock artists and collaborated with them (Jaki Liebezeit was a free jazz player before joining Can) and were also part of the larger scene. Musicians talk about attending demonstrations, and — more chillingly — encounters with members of early ’70s radical terrorist group the Red Army Faction/Baader-Meinhof Gang.

The book isn’t perfect by any means. It’s an oral history, so the only people quoted are those who were still alive when it was being written and those who would talk to the author (Ralf Hütter and Florian Schneider of Kraftwerk are notably absent), and it presupposes a lot of knowledge on the reader’s part — the “Biographical Notes” section, in which everyone’s identity is explained and key recordings are listed, is at the very back of the book, rather than up front, which would have been much more helpful to me, anyway. Still, it’s very interesting, and I would recommend reading it alongside Rob Young’s All Gates Open: The Story of Can and Edgar Froese’s Tangerine Dream Force Majeure: The Autobiography, and maybe even Harald Kisiedu’s European Echoes: Jazz Experimentalism in Germany 1950-1975.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 13 January 2025 15:47 (one month ago) link

Has anyone here read Jan Reetze's 'Times & Sounds'?

Maresn3st, Monday, 13 January 2025 15:49 (one month ago) link

Have Eberhard Weber's autobio and the Arthur Russell "Travels Over Feeling" books but dunno which to begin first. Have read Tim Lawrence's excellent AR bio so could easily do Weber first but the photos in the AR are drawin' me iiiin!!

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 13 January 2025 16:14 (one month ago) link

The Weber book is worthwhile, at least depending on your tolerance for German complaining about everything from food to transportation. That aside, it's a good read.

Did not enjoy Neu Klang as much as I'd hoped

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 13 January 2025 16:57 (one month ago) link

Hahaha! Now I'm really looking forward to reading it!

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 13 January 2025 20:55 (one month ago) link

I read a few pages of Graham Lock's Anthony Braxton book, Forces in Motion, last year, and put it aside for a future time. The future is now — about halfway through and really enjoying it, and listening to Braxton (and Roscoe Mitchell and Ruth Crawford Seeger etc etc) to accompany.

I think we're all Bezos on this bus (WmC), Monday, 13 January 2025 21:28 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I listened to Birmingham after reading Lock's brief description of the show. Kind of sore that it's the only one of the three not on Tidal.

I think we're all Bezos on this bus (WmC), Monday, 13 January 2025 21:52 (one month ago) link

Rumba on the River: A History of the Popular Music of the Two Congos - Gary Stewart

this sounds great, you should read it and tell us about it

budo jeru, Monday, 13 January 2025 22:14 (one month ago) link

xxxp to Maresn3st - that is my husband!

This is how the spicy nonsense becomes loose. (doo dah), Monday, 13 January 2025 23:48 (one month ago) link

Anyone read any of the books in this series / from this publisher? They just announced a new one about Fountains of Wayne:

https://jcardpress.com/shop/p/fountains-of-wayne

alpine static, Friday, 17 January 2025 20:49 (one month ago) link

I read the Braniac one and enjoyed it though I'm not necessarily a fan of their music. It takes a mostly journalistic approach to piecing their story together.

I wrote the J-card book on De La Soul and would be excited for more people to read it, I spent a year or two researching and writing it and feel generally good about how it turned out.

erasingclouds, Friday, 17 January 2025 23:14 (one month ago) link

does anyone know when the 33 1/3 people start to accept proposals? i read it was usually at the beginning of the year but i wondered if anyone had more info that than. i am working on a proposal!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 January 2025 00:26 (one month ago) link

oops i meant than that

please read my book lol

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 January 2025 00:27 (one month ago) link

Good luck. I have some useful counsel for you left over from my rejected proposal for Black Vinyl Shoes 19 years ago (opening paragraph):

Are you sure you want this to be a book that sells? There's a lot of pressure and a lot of time commitments that go along with a best-selling book--have you given any thought to that?

Seemed like a good idea at the time.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 January 2025 02:36 (one month ago) link

I am currently re-reading Carl Wilson’s 331/3 book on Celine Dion, which is even more fascinating and thought provoking than I had remembered.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 18 January 2025 13:59 (one month ago) link

Graham Lock's Anthony Braxton book, Forces in Motion

I read this a couple of months ago and it really is an eye-opening book. It's a perfect mix of theoretical discussion and storytelling/anecdotes, and it makes the challenge of Braxton's work less forbidding; not only in terms of his own explanations and approach, but the author's open bewilderment at some of the tangents of the composer's thought. It made me realize it's OK to appreciate this music on whatever level of sophistication and understanding you're able to bring to it.
It's also a great portrait of this group of artists on tour trying to make something of their art in sometimes inhospitable locations, and the connections to students or audiences they're able to make in spite of this difficulty.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 00:22 (one month ago) link

How is the Rob Sheffield Taylor Swift book?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 01:24 (one month ago) link

I enjoyed it a lot - a good mix of analyzing her music and the fandom/cultural impact. Smart observations on how her songs work on listeners. Goes deep in places and keeps a broad view of Swift's career and her place in music. For my taste it could have been a bit less starry-eyed in places, I'd love to read a Taylor Swift book willing to get more critical or risk upsetting the fans even

erasingclouds, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 04:10 (one month ago) link

I am currently re-reading Carl Wilson’s 331/3 book on Celine Dion, which is even more fascinating and thought provoking than I had remembered.

― mike t-diva, Saturday, January 18, 2025 7:59 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

that's cool. i hope Celine Dion returns the favor by writing a book about the Beach Boys

budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 04:50 (one month ago) link

Lol

James Carr Thief (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 January 2025 05:03 (one month ago) link

hah

the wedding preset (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 January 2025 11:03 (one month ago) link

Recently read — or listened to, more accurately — “Major Labels” by Kelefa Sanneh. Enjoyed it a great deal more than I thought I would. He was nicely inclusive and open-minded, but not so much that the wind blows through. I gather he’s not rated ‘round these parts.

― an incomprehensible borefest full of elves (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, November 2, 2022 6:05 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I thought this was really well done for how ambitious it is. Sometimes enormous artists are summarized in a paragraph or two, and you can't help but feel like, "that's it?" But more often he is able to tell bigger narrative arcs about genres and microgenres by piecing together how those artists fit together and played off one another. And the way he weaves in his personal experiences as a punk rock kid and child of immigrants really elevates it. Some may be turned off by how he's seemingly able to find something to like (or at least excuse) in nearly every corner of popular music but suspect that will resonate with others around here as it did for me.

Indexed, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 15:57 (one month ago) link

For my taste it could have been a bit less starry-eyed in places, I'd love to read a Taylor Swift book willing to get more critical or risk upsetting the fans even

I may be about halfway through, and ... yeah, for a book whose subtitle is "How Taylor Swift Reinvented Pop Music," in so far as the book even engages with its/a/the thesis the conclusion seems to be "by being really popular and really good and really nice and really pretty and omg now I'm crying squuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ... " Sheffield's enthusiasm is as usual mostly endearing, and he's the rare music writer who can get away with mentioning Slint in a Taylor Swift book, but ... jeez, man, layoff the gas a little. It's best reading it as just a collection of short essays about Taylor Swift.

In other news, I read the Steve Turner Mudhoney book and thought it was ultimately pretty lamestain. By the end I felt like I was in a stranger's living room watching a slideshow of family vacations.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 13:52 (two weeks ago) link

Finished the Sheffield. Swift herself finally broke down my barriers with the "Miss Americana" doc. I can't call myself a fan, not really, but the movie earned my respect. This book, it makes a good further case for her intelligence, both musical and strategic, and also as a worthy subject of intelligent writing. Even if ultimately it's too fanny, if ever an artist deserved a fan's-perspective hagiography as breathless and smart (and thankfully short) as this, it's Taylor. Who, after all, is pretty critic proof by this point; the book does a good job capturing what all the critics miss or get wrong, even when they're right.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 February 2025 21:46 (two weeks ago) link

This is very much an indiepop-nerd anecdote, but there's a typo in that book where Sheffield writes Tender Trap when he means Temper Trap, which almost gave me a heart attack for a second thinking Taylor Swift was a Tender Trap fan...

I agree with the book making a case for her intelligence, that's a good way to put it

erasingclouds, Saturday, 8 February 2025 02:06 (one week ago) link

thank god there's a dude out there prepared to make a case

Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 February 2025 02:20 (one week ago) link

Of possible interest to other Canadians, especially older ones: there's a Peter Goddard collection coming out in March.

https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/one-foot-on-the-platform-a-rock-n-roll-journey/9781487010430.html

Before I'd ever heard of Marcus or Christgau or anybody (except maybe Lillian Roxon), I knew Goddard from The Toronto Star. He was a relic by the time I started writing in the mid-'80s (and moving from music to movies and other things, I recall), so I have no idea how well his stuff will hold up; thinking just about the writing I did early on, not very well would be my guess. But I'll buy the book anyway. In the early '80s he published a list of the greatest and worst singles ever, and I sent him a whiny letter. He actually responded in a funny, sarcastic way. (Goddard died in 2022.)

clemenza, Monday, 17 February 2025 21:04 (four days ago) link


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