― sleep (sleep), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
This is good, and definitely worth a few listens. My only problem with it is that it's a bit on the monochromatic side in terms of the sonic pallete. The guitars are probably the most guilty offenders in this respect - the ringing, reverbed tones are employed nicely, often more for color than for tracing out a melody (the closest comparison I can come up with is the untitled opening track of Turn on the Bright Lights), but over the course of the album I'd say they're consistent to a fault. The drums and bass are both excellent and varied; the latter takes the traditional supporting role most of the time, but actually provides the most memorable melody on the most immediately gratifying song, "Marginal Over." The vocals (called-out, declared, and sometimes yelped) do invoke Byrne and maybe Lydon, and they're mixed particularly well to these ears: they sound a bit distant, so they work well with the rest of the music instead of overpowering and distracting.
One track that stands out is "Shepherd in Sheep's Clothing." It opens with a muted looped recording of sheep noises(?) and other things going in the background. A somber instrumental fades in over it and, for a short while, the instruments and recorded sounds mix and yield a complex texture reminiscent of Disco Inferno.
There are epic (in the Explosions in the Sky sense) moments scattered throughout the album and it's certainly a gratifying listen. But excepting "Shepherd", the explosive opener "Marginal Over" and the closing piano bit, I find the rest of the songs on the album difficult to distinguish from one another (or even remember clearly). Maybe after a few more listens...
― sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, I feel like a 90 Day Men comparison might be appropriate, but I haven't listened to them in months so my memory's a bit murky on them as well.
― sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
however, equally annoying singing.
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah, 90dm not quite as samey, but the singing and mid-tempo "post-rock" song structures (and cover art!) are comparable I guess.
― sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― breezy, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah, but i had to restrain myself from posting on your "pfork" thread.
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― breezy, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
tempos, tones, and volumes stay fairly constant throughout.
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
maybe.
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― breezy, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link
The Wilderness is alright. Sleep is OTM. The songs suffer from sameness. Very early 80s in feel with lots of ethereal guitar, JD/Pil style rhythm section, and quirky vocals a la David Byrne/David Thomas.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― breezy, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link
jd comparisons are probably warranted. their previous bands had the jd style rhythms. (or rem style rhythms depending on your pov.)
i'm not really sure where jay is coming from re:vocals. something to note tho... this band has been together for 10 years and the previous band had similarities.
my complaint might be that it reminds me too much of tristeza at times. and yeah, it's samey... but note that lungfish is as well and i know that's at least an ideological influence.
good guys tho. and a good band. see them live. no chumps here.m.
― msp (mspa), Thursday, 7 July 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 7 July 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Cuthbert, Thursday, 7 July 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
m.
― msp (mspa), Thursday, 7 July 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 7 July 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― msp (mspa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link
The sameyness doesn't bother me. I like it...it's got a good mood...love the improv piano thing at the end too...good closer.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― zeus, Monday, 29 August 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
the singing is the best part!
the drummer in my band made a good comparison to Lungfish...like a sort of wierd, Brit post-punk Lungfish with the Edge playing guitar.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― kurt broder (dr g), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― sffd, Friday, 7 October 2005 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― ddb (ddb), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
some of the best drumming of the year as well....guitar playing captures all the things i like about u2 without actually being u2
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link
the guitar player makes chipmunk faces during jamage parts....its annoying.
― ddb (ddb), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link
haha that's awesome! I hoped he would be wierd onstage....did you guys see Gang of Four on the new tour (or ever?)...I imagine him having stage movts like Jon King when I saw them a few months ago....do Wilderness tour much? I don't think they've been thru Mpls..
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― ddb (ddb), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― kurt broder (dr g), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link
cause i do...only it's later PiL...it's weird that people would say "wilderness" and "second editon"....when they should be saying "wilderness" and "9"
― ddb (ddb), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― thgjyujybujbuubiuiuuubbububibiubuibuibuiuibuib@`, Friday, 13 January 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 13 January 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― gregor vox (Gregor Vox), Saturday, 14 January 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 14 January 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.wildernesssounds.com/
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― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Bummer. I just got into their debut album, too - not as enamored with the follow-up.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link
were you looking for wilderness news am0n
― full government name (cutty), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
the joy division song: classic. the band: unbeknownst to me.
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
yes cutty and the news is "This Account Has Been Suspended Due To Technical OR Billing Problem"
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
wildernesssounds.com expired on 10/05/2010 and is pending renewal or deletion.
― am0n, Friday, 5 November 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
(k)no(w)here is dope
― am0n, Friday, 5 November 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
everything they've done is dope, if a little same-y.
this band should be much bigger. and they need a new album, pronto.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 6 November 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I love this band especially the self titled despite my problem with bands with forced-sounding vocal weirdness.
― I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Monday, 8 November 2010 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link
And the lead singer swears he hadn't heard Public Image Ltd before!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link
― ╔囧╗╔囧╝╚囧╝╚囧╗╔囧╗ (am0n), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
good god, the guitar in "Marginal Over" is so exquisite.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
the vocals... what the hell is going on
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
it sounds like he's parodying something... but what?
80s adult contemporary music
― hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
you guys really get butthurt about your music, huh
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
he sounds kind of like David Byrne crossed with Fred Schneider
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link
lol had you never heard this before? I think John Lydon mid-80s PIL is the cleanest comparison vocal-wise.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link
I hadn't heard it before but I liked some of the bands referred to in the opening post so I thought I'd check it out. Can't say it reminds me too much of the bands mentioned, to be honest. The U2 touchpoint mentioned above seemed more fitting; I can at least hear some elements of U2 in this. I wasn't familiar with 80s PIL, but I'm listening to that now, and it's not a bad reference for the vocals. I do find the singing very distracting with this musical backdrop though... like I said, it almost sounds like he's parodying something.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
i was also unfamiliar with wilderness. listening to the 1st album now, they kinda sound like kitchens of distinction fronted by david yow. jmtc
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link
i love this band so much
― maura, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 04:09 (nine years ago) link
Oh man, always surprising to see Wilderness discussion. Still listen to their albums regularly. Love them so so much as well.
― Evan, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 05:05 (nine years ago) link
Every time this post pops up and reminds me to listen to the first album I get so fucking happy.
― Oblique Strategies, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 05:21 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGQDCdvkeNA
― am0n, Friday, 13 May 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link
this was a pretty good band, what happened to them?
― na (NA), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link
funny i just ran across this CD (the debut), stands up great! excellent PIL worship
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link
Love this album forever
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link
― na (NA), Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:32 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Every few months I ask myself the same question.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link
they were great, played their CD a few months back. Feel in the mood to play it again now
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link
i might be crazy but i hear a little bit of their sound in protomartyr. might just be a shared lungfish influence.
― na (NA), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link
Had an urge to listen to the debut and it floors me every time. Post-Plethoric Rhetoric into Fly Further to See is just, fucking hell. Oddly, the album it mostly reminds me of - and it's totally in the rolling tumble and warmth of the rhythm section - is Bob Dylan's Desire.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link
I never stopped listening to them! Yeah the sequencing is great there. Debut came out when affected alienating lead vocals were all the rage in indie rock but this album doesn't sound dated cause the whole package is much more art rock than all those buzz bands from that time.
― Evan, Sunday, 17 May 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link
really great band
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 May 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link
Put this album on during my evening walk yesterday, and I reached a new level of appreciation for it. It shouldn't work -- the songs are indistinguishable from one another (except "Marginal Over"), the singer's voice should grate, the influences are too obvious -- but it somehow transcends all of that.
― enochroot, Saturday, 2 October 2021 12:00 (three years ago) link
It totally holds up for me! Loved it since it came out in 2005
― Evan, Saturday, 2 October 2021 12:03 (three years ago) link
I’ve done away with a lot of promos over the years but have held onto the Wilderness discs.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 October 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
The only thing that didn't age so well for me were the silly backup vocals on the 3rd LP
― Evan, Sunday, 3 October 2021 03:10 (three years ago) link
Maybe I shouldn't have listened again in the same week, because now the cracks are starting to show.The start of the debut album seemed a lot more epic before I paid attention to the lyrics:
Face the facts, oh facts the face, facts the faceTrace the act, oh act the trace, act the traceErase the act, oh act the erase, act the eraseReplace the fact, oh fact the replace, fact the replace
Still not tired of the drummer's constant fills though. Also, it sounds like "Post Plethoric Rhetoric" repeats the riff from "Marginal Over" but at half speed, which makes for a nice callback.
― enochroot, Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
Is this new stuff on Spotify????
― yuoowemeone, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 10:26 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cv8hwzHO8M
― yuoowemeone, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 10:32 (three years ago) link
I’m not sure if it will be? Does this label usually make these comps available for streaming?
https://www.undertheradarmag.com/news/jagjaguwar_announces_fourth_and_final_installment_of_jag25_series
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 10:46 (three years ago) link
"Those who purchase the zine will receive one of two limited edition cassettes, either that of the previously unreleased Wilderness album Future Seats or..."
So there's a Wilderness album that was never released, but it will be available on cassette only if you hurry.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 11:19 (three years ago) link
AT RANDOM. So you can't even say "Hey, Jagjaguwar, I'd prefer the Wilderness tape, thanks!"
https://www.secretlystore.com/sentimental-noise-various
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 11:22 (three years ago) link
Not nearly enough live footage of this band. Came across this recently. YEAH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbz645vP2s
― Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Monday, 3 July 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link
So Colin McCann and Brian Gossman have a new band - Vulture Feather. They're pretty good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKK4ZU55huA
― (picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Thursday, 27 July 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link
Good to see the Wilderness love. Dang, that record is good.
― (picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:42 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Indeed it is, as is their new band Vulture Feather: https://vulturefeather.bandcamp.com/album/liminal-fields
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, August 31, 2023 5:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Saturday, 2 September 2023 02:51 (one year ago) link
New EP and forthcoming East Coast US tour: https://vulturefeather.bandcamp.com/album/merge-now-in-friendship
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 01:33 (eleven months ago) link
I'm so glad I clicked on this post yesterday because Wilderness was one of my favorite bands of the late aughts and I always wondered what became of them. Liminal Fields is lit. Terrific cover art, too.
― Andy Fox, Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:44 (eleven months ago) link
New Vulture Feather album out on Bandcamp, they really are great at the sound they've picked out.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 16 February 2025 23:44 (five days ago) link