pop songs in a major key vs. pop songs in a minor key

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i remember ladytron saying somewhere 'all the great pop songs are in a minor key', citing shocking blue's 'venus' as an example. is it true?

minna, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i love venus, but i often find songs entirely in minor keys overwhelmingly gloomy. i think a lot of songwriters tend to use them lazily to build atmosphere and all they end up with is overcast stuff without much emotional modulation. most of my favourite songs have a major major key element.

minna, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't like major keys. Pretty much all of my favorite songs are in a minor key or have minor key elements to them.

Melissa W, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"...Baby One More Time" is a great, great minor-key exercise.

Douglas, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"love will tear us apart again" - great major key exercise.

minna, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

major key = serene beauty, minor key = teen angst? (;))

minna, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

minor key = darkside

Keith McD, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Something about writing off entire key signatures makes me uneasy...

Keiko, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

get with it keiko: anything not in a flat minor suXoR

mark s, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Minor all the way, except for that cool russian stuff which goes major just at the end of the phrase.

phil, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What matters more than major or minor is tonic instability. Not that I know what it means, but it sure sounds cool.

Curt, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

that's where you make the mistake of adding moudly lemon to your g&t.

clive, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Something about writing off entire key signatures makes me uneasy...

Not even that, but entire tonalities! More interesting would be to find out if tonalities actually mean anything in pop music. In the olden days, I don't think they were emphasized so much (i.e., major = 'happy', minor = 'sad'). Off the top of my head, I remember the world's greatest party song, "Hava Nagila", is minor, while classic torch number "My Bonnie" is major.

dleone, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What's particularly nice is a song like Happy Together, which pairs ostensibly happy lyrics with a minor musical setting. Of course, the music invites you to consider the darker elements in the lyrics, which you might not notice if the song were in a major key.

Prude, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ah... "Paint It Black" (vs. like "Let's Spend The Night Together"... *pshaw*)

Also... "Andy Warhol"... I think that was a single.

good stuff.

http://gygax.pitas.com, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

minor key = teen angst? (;))

Not necessarily "teen" either, minna. I think Nirvana's "Sliver" is in a minor key, as well as The Sugarcubes' "Motorcrash".

Nichole Graham, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

twenty years pass...

I tend to prefer music that's in a major key to that in a minor key, pop songs or otherwise. This isn't to say I have anything against minor keys/chords (and many of my favorite songs are in a minor key), but when I hear an album where a majority of the songs are in a minor key the music becomes like a dull wash after a while.

It's far from pop, but the clearest example of "minor-key wash" for me is the music of Klaus Schulze. His 70s records sound great and are full of amazing cosmic synth textures, but every single one is front-to-back natural minor. It just gets exhausting after a while.

It's also not about a preference for "happy" music; for example Sufjan Stevens's Carrie and Lowell is one of the most devastatingly sad albums I know, and almost every song is in a major key, which I think makes it hit even harder. See Joanna Sternberg's Then I Try Some More for a similar effect.

I'm curious to hear about others' similar (or even the opposite) biases. I remember reading a interview with Van Dyke Parks where he talks about preferring major to minor keys, but I can't find it now. Preferences/matters of taste like these are fascinating to me.

Also it feels wild to bump a thread after 20+ years...

J. Sam, Saturday, 18 February 2023 22:50 (two years ago) link


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