Autechre: Classic or Dud?

search: LP5

as for "inventive," well, the IDM list be damned, they pretty much defined how IDM has sounded for the past 4 years or so by dint of every semi-talented derivative jacking their style (phoenicia, entire schematics roster, everything i've heard on musik aus strom, especially the horribly derivative but not even close to the mark flagship duo funkstorung, etc, etc). their fault or their misfortune, you be the judge.

but in the last 6 months i've begun to change my mind, and i'm beginning to really love some of what they do (most of LP5, a lot of Chiastic Slide, and Clichi Suite are beautiful records i think).

it seems strange that it too such a long time for me to really like them, but then i did that with piano magic, happy mondays and tom waits too, and i love 90% of all their stuff too.

got tri repetae recently, but having difficulty getting into that one so far.

saw them at Brixton Fridge the other week, and they were excellent. every track seems to start off so uninviting, but gradually becomes wonderful

so, i think i'd head towards classic really

So there you have it: we're the new folkies! :) Let's all grow beards.

Just got sent this:

Autechre - 'EPS 1991-2002' WARPCD211
5 X Deluxe CD - 47 Tracks - 5hr 39min 59sec
47 track digital bundle available now
CD shipped & released 11th April 2011

Order CD with instant WAV/MP3 download at Bleep
Download MP3/WAV at Bleep (includes videos)
Download digital at iTunes

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(Made in The Designers Republic™)
CAVITY JOB, BASSCADEP, ANTI EP
(Disc 1)

Cavity Job
Accelera 1 & 2
Basscadet (Bcdtmx)
Basscadet (Basscadoublemx)
Basscadet (Tazmx)
Basscadet (Basscadubmx)
Lost
Djarum
Flutter

Tracks 1 – 2 originally released as Cavity Job (p)1991 Autechre.
Tracks 3 – 6 originally released as Basscad EP (p) 1994 Warp Records Limited.
Tracks 7 – 9 originally released as Anti EP (p) 1994 Warp Records Limited.
GARBAGE, ANVIL VAPRE
(Disc 2)

Garbagemx
PIOBmx
Bronchusevenmx
VLetrmx
Second Bad Vilbel
Second Scepe
Second Scout
Second Peng

Tracks 1 – 4 originally released as Garbage (p)1995 Warp Records Limited.
Tracks 5 – 8 originally released as Anvil Vapre (p) 1995 Warp Records Limited.
PEEL SESSION, ENVANE
(Disc 3)

Milk DX
Inhake 2
Drane
Goz Quarter
Latent Quarter
Laughing Quarter
Draun Quarter

Tracks 1 – 3 originally released as Peel Session (p)1995 BBC.
Tracks 4 – 7 originally released as Envane (p)1997 Warp Records Limited.
CHICHLISUITE, EP7
(Disc 4)

Yeesland
Pencha
Characi
Krib
Tilapia
Rpeg
Ccec
Squeller
Left Blank
Outpt
Dropp
Liccflii

Tracks 1 – 5 originally released as Cichlisuite (p)1997 Warp Records Limited.
Tracks 6 – 12 originally released on EP7 (p)1999 Warp Records Limited.
EP7, PEEL SESSION 2, GANTZ GRAF
(Disc 5)

Maphive6.1
Zeiss Contarex
Netlon Sentinel
Pir
Gelk
Blifil
Gaekwad
19 Headaches
Gantz Graf
Dial.
Cap.IV

Tracks 1 – 4 originally released on EP7 (p)1999 Warp Records Limited.
Tracks 5 – 8 originally released as Peel Session 2 (p)1999 BBC.
Tracks 9 – 11 originally released as Gantz Graf (p)2002 Warp Records Limited.

ooh, they've split the EP7s across two discs. Bad show.

(closes eyes, mutters 'i do not need or want expensive box-sets, i do not need or want expensive box sets...')

('I have all these tracks already, i have all these tracks already')

Seems a little odd not to include the Seefeel or Beaumont Hannant mixes of Basscadet, but maybe that can be justified. Putting "Anvil Vapre" before "Garbage" seems like flat-out bad sequencing.

?

Tracks 1 – 4 originally released as Garbage (p)1995 Warp Records Limited.
Tracks 5 – 8 originally released as Anvil Vapre (p) 1995 Warp Records Limited.

ah, my mistake!

This is disappointing. At least include all vinyl-only tracks, not only Cavity Job.

I don't feel this is worth the double-dip.

Sorry boothbrown, I already have all the original releases.

only own the Anti EP but not sure what I would do with this package - EP collections on several CDs just seem so impractical

This is disappointing. At least include all vinyl-only tracks, not only Cavity Job.

I don't feel this is worth the double-dip.

OTM.

Better to have the original Anti and break the seal on it to show what bollicks the Criminal Justice Thingy is.

http://thequietus.com/articles/10978-autechre-new-album-details-exai

I couldn't decide which C or D thread to pick so I made a new one

Autechre Exai

http://youtu.be/lC7LGzCZ-q0

classic

track at 18:00 is pretty sick

that whole video is rad, oh man that brings back memories, esp. the whistles and the whole dudes-with-long-fringe-swept-back-w-headbands thing, damn haven't seen that look in a minute

http://ge.tt/9ZkPRWw/v/0

more ore

http://p.autechre.ws/proxy?lnk=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.discogs.com%2Fartist%2F41-Autechre

ok it has to be in the same format as before.

I have the Draft 7.30 one, it’s wonderful - printing is immaculate and the shirt is deep black.

gonna be buried in an NTS Sessions shirt

JFC Lyon set is a trip. There's one part in the first third that sounds like the last track on Confield super slowed down. Really great old school beat samples. Lots of pads etc. wow

Thanks for discussing this really kind of neat open-ended release everyone, I would've totally slept on this! The discount worked fine for me to get the rest of the sets. The shit will take years to digest but that's totally okay :) Knowing they have no studio album plans is pretty great motivation to just dive in and engage. It becomes a no-brainer.

The interview was interesting; the bit where they re-signed to Warp but don't have to actually deliver albums, almost like they're on retainer. And if they decide they do have material, they can just upload direct to the web store. . . and here we are! out of nowhere a massive unbounded live album that might just keep growing indefinitely, and to be had at a totally reasonable price point. Bravo!

i have very little use for hour long tracks though. i don't like the monolithic nature of these things.

(and some of these are close to 90 mins)

yeah, I like these live sets a lot but sometimes wish they were split into individual tracks

Another link with Lynch, who originally vetoed chapters on his DVD releases.

JFC Lyon set is a trip. There's one part in the first third that sounds like the last track on Confield super slowed down. Really great old school beat samples. Lots of pads etc. wow

yeah, this is the only one I've listened to so far and it's amazing. sounds like Brussels is another good one?

Listening to this is definitely a very different experience from that of a regular album. Even if there is change and progression and you might find favourite bits it's still hard to think of them as anything less than monolithic blocks of sound. Still, I'm really enjoying Lyon right no, and I listened to London B yesterday before the new ones were available and that were reet bangin'. I'm definitely excited for the Manchester show next year.

could there be like fan edits of these in the style of elseq to turn them into 'tracks'? (maybe distributed as a list of ffmpeg edit commands)

the other thing, which I'm sure they don't care about, is that hr long tracks means no radio play.

There is a fan wiki which has divided all the live sets into “tracks”

https://aepages.org/wiki/AE_2022%EF%BC%8D#Analysis

Would be good if somebody made a cue file from these timings

the other thing, which I'm sure they don't care about, is that hr long tracks means no radio play.

Also, unfortunately, probably no play in my kitchen while I'm cooking dinner. Not to mention there is no way at minute 45 or whatever that I'd possibly be able to recall what happened at minute 15.

there's not much to a CUE file - it's just text. example from wikipedia.

vlc apparently plays them. untested.

REM GENRE Electronica
REM DATE 1998
PERFORMER "Faithless"
TITLE "Live in Berlin"
FILE "Faithless - Live in Berlin.mp3" MP3
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Reverence"
    PERFORMER "Faithless"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "She's My Baby"
    PERFORMER "Faithless"
    INDEX 01 06:42:0
...

that aepages page tho... it's suggesting all these live things are a subset of some massive thing

the 2015 ones were the same, recognisably similar elements in all of them.

for lyon, untested:

REM GENRE Electronica
REM DATE 2022
PERFORMER "Autechre"
TITLE "Live in Lyon"
FILE "AE_2022－-01-019-Autechre-AE_LYON_070524.mp3" MP3
	TRACK 01 AUDIO
		TITLE "01"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:00:00
	TRACK 02 AUDIO
		TITLE "02"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:05:44
	TRACK 03 AUDIO
		TITLE "03"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:09:18
	TRACK 04 AUDIO
		TITLE "04"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:14:28
	TRACK 05 AUDIO
		TITLE "05"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:20:30
	TRACK 06 AUDIO
		TITLE "06"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:27:25
	TRACK 07 AUDIO
		TITLE "07"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:33:15
	TRACK 08 AUDIO
		TITLE "08"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:37:52
	TRACK 09 AUDIO
		TITLE "09"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:42:34
	TRACK 10 AUDIO
		TITLE "10"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:46:27
	TRACK 11 AUDIO
		TITLE "11"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:50:15
	TRACK 12 AUDIO
		TITLE "12"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:56:29
	TRACK 13 AUDIO
		TITLE "13"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:60:28
	TRACK 14 AUDIO
		TITLE "14"
		PERFORMER "Autechre"
		INDEX 01 00:65:35   

that aepages page tho... it's suggesting all these live things are a subset of some massive thing

in the interview posted a bit earlier in this thread, I think they mention in passing that they have about 4-5 hours of material. I guess they pull various parts from that stuff for their live sets, tweaking it a bit each time.

so are they doing another studio album er no

Thanks Ledge. The thread I originally saw the link in suggests that those timings were derived from audience recordings rather than the official release so the timings won’t be accurate for the versions we are listening to

Still, I bet if I used those charts as a rough guide, I could cut up the WAV files in Audition in such a way that I could get a more convenient listening experience out of it.

the clarinet! (brussels ~ 32 mins)

> I guess they pull various parts from that stuff for their live sets

it would be more interesting, to me, if the graph was less linear.

currently it sounds like an 'in c' style thing - numbered sections that get played once or more and then moving onto the next. but that's very linear, part 5 always follows part 4 (or another copy of part 5). something more like the electric sheep screensaver, or the gescom minidisc on shuffle i guess, would be more interesting (but harder to implement)

> that get played once or more

that get played *zero* or more

While I decide whether or not to buy all those live sets and spend weeks slicing them up, I am returning to the NTS Sessions.

i don't get why these sets are so troublesome / inconvenient to listen to. i listen to elseqs 1-5 the same way - all of it (high resolution mp3 format) fits onto a single cd-r, and it's just a lengthy, immersive ae experience. maybe not in one sitting, and not necessarily continuous, but it's nice to just have it playing and tune into it throughout the day

there are parts of the 2015 sets (arguably having more distinct sections) that i liked so much i felt compelled to make excerpts (using Audacity) for sharing with friends, etc. ... these 2024 sets (only listened to the Lyon set so far) seem more cohesive, with parts that seem (?) more interwoven and less like well-defined episodes occurring in a linear succession. though there are some satisfyingly 'organic' transitions between certain parts on the 2015 sets.

really enjoying the parts of the Lyon set that aren't so atonal and relentless (percussion / beat-wise) .. beautiful instances (more spacious and open) with more emphasis on tonality (pads, melody, repeating motifs, atmosphere) and creative percussion throughout. some of this feels like (or is reminiscent of) their studio material. i don't see why a lack of tracks, or markers, is such a problem.

i don't have an hour (or 86 minutes) to listen to the whole thing in one go and my player doesn't remember where i got to. so i end up listening to the starts of things mulitple times and never hearing the ends.

well, check out the last ~20 minutes of Lyon. if your player allows you to cue up alternate instances throughout a track

sometimes I listen to full albums and sometimes I just have 15 minutes or whatever and want to listen to a couple of specific tracks, I have definitely wasted some time in the past trying to find a specific part of one of the live sets that I liked. This is the main reason I would like separate tracks. I'm still enjoying these live sets a lot though.

Looks like this new batch got renamed from “2022—“ to “2022/2024.” Read into that what you will, I’m taking it as this chapter closing.

currently it sounds like an 'in c' style thing - numbered sections that get played once or more and then moving onto the next. but that's very linear, part 5 always follows part 4 (or another copy of part 5)

that's broadly true but there is layering, two or three parts will play alongside each other for shorter or longer. definitely for the '15 sets and doubtless here too.

People wanting shorter tracks could try this? (n.b. I haven't, yet):

https://old.reddit.com/r/autechre/comments/15vkklu/tt2_ae_live_2022_exclusives/

(in 'in c' there are multiple musicians, up to 35!, so you have layers there too)

the other thing, which I'm sure they don't care about, is that hr long tracks means no radio play.

this is an extremely hilarious idea. Sleepless nights for Sean and Rob, wondering what's going to play best during drive time.

Just grabbed this and I'm loving Lyon, although I have the guilty feeling that I'm starting my meal with dessert.

Is there a way to have iTunes ... uh ... Music ... display different cover art for the individual tracks vs the album as a whole?

(right now it's using the Milan artwork for the album as a whole, which is obviously intolerable)

ctrl + i -> artwork

interview https://metalmagazine.eu/en/post/autechre

interview the other week

― et a earwig (sic), Saturday, November 2, 2024 5:44 PM (five days ago)

oh! sorry.

Ok, really like the way the ending of Krems leads right into the beginning of Lyon, as if they just took a short break and then started again where they left off and the Lyon show just being a continuation of the previous one.

these are perfect for a run.

i feel like this format results in more dynamic and maybe accessible ae whereas with the nts sessions tracks they're more focused on a single sonic world for a good long while. idk just a first impression and i've only listened to the sydney set, which is fantastic. i do hope they come back around to being interested in the album as a form at some point though.

Bergen is fantastic, particularly the section around 46 minutes plus. World's greatest jam band.

lyon is amazing. i doubt any of these will be less than great tbh. world's greatest jam band is otm.

Rennes is nothing like Lyon (so far) ... listening on youtube (user "icari" has been uploading the sets) ... the clarinet is wild! wasn't expecting that. wonder if they'll release the more recent (sept / october) sets at some point.. there are some decent audience recordings up on YT. Lyon (agreed) really is awesome, been listening to it daily. happy that there's so much more to explore

there's a recent-ish jim o'rourke interview where he's talking about autechre's recent output--about how their sound (during the last decade?) has improved so much. there's a lot of talk about kyma, but o'rourke mentions something about how ae started using max gen (attributing their use of it as one of the reasons for their leveling up) ..it's cool to hear jim o'rourke geek out about late period ae (it's apparent that he's a big fan) .. i believe it's from an interview with samuel andreyev (youtube channel) that was posted 11 months ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxX1vo966ks (sorry, no time stamp) if it's not this one, then it's probably in the Outer Sound (other yt channel) interview from around roughly the same time.

These sets are classic. Autechre is beyond classic. I'm losing track of which set i'm listening to, but Sydney's got some sick hi-hat sounds. Sydney's sizzlin' hats. Not sizzling like 808 or 606 hats--more like a trashcan lid. it makes me want to spring for an Archer's Rig to make jankity, clang-y broken cymbal sounds. who's playing clarinet on these recordings?

Couple videos Sean posted to Mastodon (!) of Ae's software setup in use (!) here: https://disquiet.com/2024/11/05/autechre-live-listening-diary-2023-24/#:~:text=2024.11.12%5D%20Screen_Time

this'n rolls into the exciting bit of the Sydney set at 1:08, not that it gives away much of what's happening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgMArRJswIQ