Kool G Rap vs Big L

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYfKMIdoJL0

is my vote

i counter with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGBj3zCX9Mk&feature=PlayList&p=1253247225ABC156&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7

don't know who to vote for yet.

Why not settle for both?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5gcxKStVic

too bad the backing track is pretty weak

Predicting 6 votes total. Should've put "RYM" somewhere in the title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzyaAuPh1lE v. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdvKAnIlB2Y

bbegrudgingly voting big l.

You know nothin about L, so don't doubt L
What's this mothafuckin rap game without L?

big l is great but honestly i feel like kool g was so crucial to creating the template from which big l worked, it's gotta be kool g rap.

though this is probably one of those "hey 10 dudes on ILM that actually post to threads like this, how old are you?" type poll results.

I probably listen to Lifestyles a little more than I do any of my Kool G albums so L, I guess. Very tough choice.

in my 30's, so g rap.

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Kool G Rap for sure

Don't even know Big L. Where should I start?

Lifestyles ov da Poor and Dangerous is better than anything Kool G put out, but if we're talking catalogs I'd have to go with Kool G. I don't know, it feels messed up to slight Big L for getting shot, though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl9hmDVd3hk&feature=related

in my (late) 20s, so Big L

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__oWadvgtX8

I probably listen to Lifestyles a little more than I do any of my Kool G albums so L, I guess.

I'm not some crumbsnatching new Jack herb, so g rap

pffft

4,5,6 >>>> lifestylez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Dlxy9AvPc

kind of a challops i know

but obv like 'road to the riches' >>> any of L's records ... i prefer the Big Picture to L's first one though (or at least listen to it a lot more)

Don't even know Big L. Where should I start?

― Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 01:17 (7 hours ago) Bookmark

He only made two records before he died and they are both stunning. (Also both available on spotify if you can use it.)

I though he made only one album while alive. The Big Picture was produced posthumously, on a couple of tunes you can hear the guest rapper saying "rest in peace, Big L" or something like that.

Ok yeah sorry. Still both are essential listening.

Yeah Road to the Riches is easily as good as Lifestylez, if not better.

who the fuck is Big L? Kool G all the way

dude shakey u would like big l i bet.

listen these guys are both fucking amazing.

but yeah 4, 5, 6 is amazing and honestly i would maybe put Wanted: Dead or Alive slightly above the more canon Road to the Riches....

also Live and Let Die brought sort of west coast gangsta type influenced stuff to the east coast perspective 2 years before biggie's ready to die.

"who the fuck is Big L?"

Are you not a DITC fan, Shakey?

I know Showbiz & AG and Diamond D (and Fat Joe obvy) but that's about it

dude honestly this is kinda blowing my mind but yeah dude you NEED lifestylez of da poor and dangerous...it's like total classic DITC type stuff but with a dude that's even more of a great rapper than AG or diamond d or fat joe

Yeah M@tt is dead on. This is an essential record.

allright lemme do some huntin

shakey you should be excited...oh but to hear "put it on" for the first time again :)

robbin' infants for 10 cents!

but still... dude has one record to how many of Kool G's... I mean come on he can't be THAT great

actually you should know him from "Represent", he had the first verse on that song on Runaway Slave by Showbiz and AG

(xpost yeah no doubt i mean honestly i might vote Kool G Rap pretty close to GOAT in my own personal views)

<A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2yQLAPmRxg";>"represent" by showbiz and AG</A>

man that deshawn dude goes hard on this too.....i always love those dudes that only show up in history to do like a handful of fucking dope guest shots and then disappear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2yQLAPmRxg

"so many homicide raps, my cases went platinum"

actually you should know him from "Represent", he had the first verse on that song on Runaway Slave by Showbiz and AG

ah, yeah I have that

but yeah 4, 5, 6 is amazing and honestly i would maybe put Wanted: Dead or Alive slightly above the more canon Road to the Riches....

also Live and Let Die brought sort of west coast gangsta type influenced stuff to the east coast perspective 2 years before biggie's ready to die.

I like all 3 a lot. RttR I rate above the followups mainly due to Marley Marl's production. EgoTrip placed him as #1 producer all-time, and I can't really argue that. He seems totally overlooked now.

horseshit question, Kool G Rap by far.

you should change it to Big Daddy Kane vs. Kool G Rap

you just made me vote Big L. I hope you're happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNfiYhBiWak

Kane is an all-time great no question, but I felt Kool G and Big L had a similar style and flow that begged for a poll showdown.

Pretty unfortunate to be using 'bit he only made 1 good album' against L, it's not like he had an opportunity to do as much as G Rap. I think I only voted against G Rap because the homophobic stuff knocks him down a peg or two in my mind, if it wasn't there he'd be up there with the best.

Would totally vote for him over Kane though (on the basis of their own records - G Rap made albums of classic material, Kane made some classic songs scattered between being a boring lothario. If you factor in who what they ghosted it becomes more of a tough decision.)

gonna go out on a limb here and say Big L was homophobic, too.

gonna go out on a limb and say i don't agree with everything most artists think, doesn't mean they have to make cuntish music about it and can't write something else.

If you factor in who what they ghosted it becomes more of a tough decision.)

lol Pickin Boogers

(^^^^which is a great fuckin song btw, not knockin it)

also this http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__O3nh72w1b4/RyP5XkOIXQI/AAAAAAAAAA0/oYedUuwO5Dg/s320/lil-wayne-baby-kiss.thumbnail was pretty much the biggest hiphop meme of the decade, so maybe assuming all rappers are homophobes is a lil stoopid.

(no homo)

from Bobbito freestyle:

I'm nowhere near trash, step to the rear fast
'fore I have ya queer ass cryin like tear gas

from Danger Zone:

The microphone is through when this rap legend grab it
Sendin poems to have them faggots diggin hoes like Reverand Swaggart

And mad niggaz be fronting the life

Popping mad shit, trying to be something they not

Your faggot ass better stay to dancing, don't even look at me

I might break your jaw just for glancing

I take it back. Damn.

When someone as "conscious" as Mos Def is vocally anti-gay, not really too stoopid to assume 99.9% of rappers are.

Only cos Talib dumped him for Hi-Tek.

i'm quick to put a slug in a fag brain, leaving fags in bodybags with tags on they big toe

but i digress.. never heard of these fellows, are they this rap music i've been hearing so much about?

'she asked me for a ring & i put one around her whole eye'

these dudes arent really gentlemen tbh

talk like sex is still so naaaasty and mean

yeah big l is a massive sexist & homophobe

did he coin the "hard dick & bubblegum" line

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Nice turnout, can support the results.

this is so damn raw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z7ImbTMlxU

those results are kind of perfect

I love both of these peoples. Which is why I didn't vote, and it's been hard, because Big L is the punchline king, but really it's close, but I'd be voting for Kool G Rap. When he's really flowing I feel like I've just learned english.

WTF never even heard of Live and Let Die before (Sir Jinx!)

this is awesome

yeah it's amazing. and two years before ready to die it really tries to take an NYC thug style and mix it with slower thicker west coast moves....

the thing got kinda fucked up in the whole cop killer controversy and had a troubled release as a result, real shame

it's like Death Certificate Pt 2, the East Coast version

go for your guns is so fierce

the storytelling on this is what makes it - the attention to narrative and detail is really ahead of its time

honestly kool g is the GOAT in a lot of ways

askin who's the best battle rapper me eminem or canibus
it doesn't matter because kool g rap is better than all three of us

'Things that don't get rapped about anymore'

another thing that links these two is g rap did that spreading yr rhymes over line endings that L loved to do, "put u in a black hearse/ for that wack verse/ shoulda tried these other cats first"

i think that "harlem's finest - a freestyle history" thing shld be thought of like it's his third record, even tho my favorite isn't on it iirc

another thing that links these two is g rap did that spreading yr rhymes over line endings that L loved to do, "put u in a black hearse/ for that wack verse/ shoulda tried these other cats first"

Kool G, L, and Percee P def the masters of this imo

it's seems kinda unique/unusual to me that Kool G Rap constantly refers to himself as having an old lady/kids in a lot of his rhymes, like he's the "family man" version of the gangsta. Snoop, Cube, Eazy, Quik, these other early guys are all pretty obviously teenagers, but G Rap always comes off as older/more world-weary. he isn't just some dumb kid hanging out on the corner

gritty new free EP "offer you can't refuse" on kool g's website:

http://www.koolgrapnow.com/

another thing that links these two is g rap did that spreading yr rhymes over line endings that L loved to do, "put u in a black hearse/ for that wack verse/ shoulda tried these other cats first"

― zvookster, Monday, July 12, 2010 6:59 PM (1 year ago)

i was listening to both of L's records in the car today and realized he's kiiinda one-note with this flow, i mean he does it so well and he was a great writer but i always felt like he wasn't terribly flexible in that regard, sometimes he could get realll wordy and kinda come off the beat momentarily

Giancana Story is some ace shit

wtf is that horn sample in "G On" I know I know it but I can't find it, driving me crazy.

this is STILL driving me crazy. it's also on BDP's "Word From Our Sponsor"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htdav53AlpE

come on, no one knows this? it's in so many songs!

"Word from Our Sponsor" contains samples from First Choice's "Love Thang."

yeah it's not that though. "Love Thang" is just the drum break right...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I64AiA_7jlY

ah it's around the 2 min mark and much faster

dunno how I missed that before thx