Welcome back Whiney

Friday, May 28, 2010 9:37 AM Site board free (Whiney G. Weingarten) unbanned
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i know this should be a ILE post.

we have missed you around here! how the hell are you?

lol at this thread

i am a little hammered, so i probably wouldn't have done this thread without the alcohol.

i post a bunch of news items and this seemed to be an important one, lol.

i'm surprised P4K didn't have a news item on this.

btw welcome back

ILX needed a blogger

that's debatable

I hear this is a track from the next Fall album.

So a couple hours ago Whiney said "you'd better post to ILX about this tonight" --

-- "this" being the fact that there was a great big fire in his building, and a good amount of the poor guy's stuff is either burned or water-damaged, and he's out of an apartment he's lived in for years. (Various folks were over helping box up the salvageable stuff so he can get it into storage.)

Hopefully he wasn't kidding about the "you'd better post about this tonight" part.

My understanding is that the cause of the fire had nothing to do with either ILX beefs or picking on Drake. (Although there was a Drake-related "near-riot" in NYC today, so ... hmm.)

I don't know if this means he'll be off ILX for a while or back in the saddle with a whole new sense of vigor and determination. But having your place burn up does not look any fun at all, so I for one am wishing the guy good luck.

Oh man, that is lousy! I hope things get back to normal for you ASAP, Whiney G.

i feel like we should do something tbh

umm, i kind of remember that night.

wish i had never done this thread, for various reasons.

fire's suck, so sorry to hear about this. good luck.

jeez, that sucks. had an apt burn down along with most of my stuff some years back. was no good. :(

good luck and best wishes, wgw.

aw fuck. Chris, if you see this and i can be helpful in some way let me know. Do you have a place to stay?

Lost my mum and the family home/all childhood stuff in a fire 5 years ago. I'm really sorry to hear this, WGW.

:( !! hope everything works out as good as is possibly can

what forks said

That's totally shitters - sorry to hear about this, Whiney!

Oof. Glad Whiney is okay (is he actually going to be able to see this anytime soon? hope so) and here's to replacing as much of his stuff as he can as quickly as possible.

On his twitter, he said that about 80% of his stuff is okay, so good for that. Still, this has to suck so bad.

That's good that most of his stuff is okay.

oh man sorry whiney :(

I hope things bounce back soon, Whiney! Sorry about your stuff, your displacement, the scariness, &c.

Damn Whiney, my sympathies. Checking ILX is probably not your top priority at the moment, but when you do, let me know if there's anything you need. Don't even know what city you're in, but if you need a place to stay around Boston you'll be set up. My apartment was burned down when I was in high school. Losing your stuff is pretty terrible, and getting uprooted in that way can take a major psychological toll that you might not fully recognize at first, in the rush to get back to something like normal. So be on the watch for that and take care of yourself. And again, if there's anything I can do to help with the taking care, just say it.

I was tremendously saddened to see the news via your Twitter last night Whiney. I know we've butted heads a few times on here, but my thoughts are with you now and I hope things work out for the best. I'm not sure what help an unemployed duder in Chicago can offer, but if theres anything I can do... let me know.

wow, glad you're OK! fires suck.

Sorry, I meant to follow up on this -- I was only there for a while, to drop off some boxes/flashlights and pitch in a little, but it looked like the lucky part was that he had his office in the most protected room in the place ... so he lost a lot of living-room and probably bedroom stuff, but it seemed like a lot of records, books, papers, etc. came through okay.

He has someone great to stay with and help him out, so he's good in that sense.

glad to hear it, hope this all gets sorted out without too much loss and suffering--best of luck dude

sorry whiney, that's rough. i assume that the dollars generated by my purchase of your book some months ago will see you through this time of crisis.

hang in there guy

very sorry to hear about this, wgw. hope you're okay.

ya dude.. not sure i could do anything from where i am but... if there's anything you can think of, lemme know!

Dude, are you here at Scion? Could swear i saw your name on a panel or three...

You guys are so ridiculously sweet and supportive. It means a lot to see the ILX zing crew be all nice and sincere and stuff.

Short version: I'm OK. My music collection survived, but some other stuff didn't

Long version: http://www.aprilfish.net/?p=2704

also, nabisco is OTM at life and friendship, btw

blame Drake imo (glad ur ok)

ok the how you broke the news thing is pretty great.

tardy here, but glad it's not as bad as it could be and so many friends came through for you. those photos are pretty distressing; good to see your sense of humor intact tho!

i'm so glad you are okay, whiney, and that you didn't lose too much of your stuff.

there was another thread about this also, it must have slipped down the page.

and darragh, i had no idea you'd suffered such a horrible tragedy, my deepest condolences.

Firemen were hacking away at the walls like Drake hacking away at a metaphor.

^^^quality blogging

Against fireman’s wishes and defying any modicum of common sense, my first instinct was to dive inside the burning building and save my laptop. This I did. I’m typing on it now. I have a book about Hipster Puppies due in a few weeks, and I’d rather die in a blaze than fuck up an assignment that awesome

glad you're okay whiney - hope this doesn't come off as callous or w/e, but there are a lot of cheap solutions to backup your files online, e.g. carbonite, and it's a good idea to have off-site backups of your data in general... so you don't run into burning buildings!!

other thread is on 77: http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77

snuff it out with whiney g

oh man here I was thinking this was whiney's-back ilx drama and it's irl sadness

glad you're ok bud

(also I echo the condolences to darraghmac)

hi Whiney, I was on some punishingly long driving-from-place-to-place action yesterday but stopping by this morning to say condolences on the fire & glad you are OK man

Grabbing a laptop out of the flames and immediately blogging about the fire = best example of "firsties" yet?

Grabbing a laptop out of the flames and immediately blogging about the fire = best example of "firsties" yet?
--Position Position

"immediately" = 41 hours later, but OK

i dunno, this dude is like endemic of the entitled wantreprenuer crybaby millenials that make up a big chunk of the internet "IDEA FACTORY" but, saddest of all, he's 42.

Plus the whole Wired/Kotaku-reader attitude of "information should be free maaaaan" until OH NO BIG COMPANY WANTS TO ADOPT NERD """CULTURE""" show me the moneyssss$$.

I dunno, there was Australian film festival website that totally jacked the idea of H1pster Pupp1es, and all I could do was laugh and link to it. It just shows that something you did was part of the culture. You should be PROUD and HONORED instead of a money-thirsty bottle baby with his fucking hands out because someone liked your idea. Especially if your idea is shitty and probably racist like "JoCo"'s

okay, imdb is not helping me, who IS that weird shag haired homunculus
who watches that fucking show that can tell me
she is damaging my mind

i still have the wedding cd, maybe i'll post it

this is bothering me

you can't cover someone else's song and then have any kind of ownership of your arrangement of it. and when someone brazenly copies it, the best thing you an do is just let people notice and act like it's nbd, since raising a stink will never get you a check or a credit anyway.

see john cale's "hallelujah"

― da croupier, Monday, January 28, 2013 12:31 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't Cale just record the first studio version w/ some lyrics Cohen had only performed live though?

xp, i think you mean WAAAAAAHntrepenuer but fair game

why is there a huge brick-wall pattern of some dumb looking ppl dancing upthread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMmBPF0vljM

apparently kurt just got to his fictional campus and this is the disgusting horseshit that awaits him.

didn't Cale just record the first studio version w/ some lyrics Cohen had only performed live though?

have you ever compared cohen's and cale's? not just lyrics but tone is totally different - buckley's cover is based directly on cale's and everyone else's is based on buckley. i'm guessing most people never heard the cohen one until watchmen.

i mean, if forks can get away with posting that hideous garbage, why can't we have glitchr display names?

Cale's version forms the basis of most subsequent performances, including Cohen's performances during his 2008–2009 world tour. It was also the version used in the film Shrek (2001) (although it did not appear on the film's soundtrack album).[7][19] It also appears on the first soundtrack album for the TV series Scrubs.
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lol xpost

buckley's is on guitar, cale's is on piano. Cale's is way way superior to buckley's.

everyone relax, i figured it out
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trying to decide if she is more annoying than Am@nda P@lmer

and she is a gift that keeps giving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOXvSVAaghM

have you ever compared cohen's and cale's? not just lyrics but tone is totally different - buckley's cover is based directly on cale's and everyone else's is based on buckley. i'm guessing most people never heard the cohen one until watchmen.

― da croupier, Monday, January 28, 2013 12:47 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it's been a long time since i listened to any of those diff versions so i've glossed over it. if your point is Cale never called out Buckley or anyone or whined about his contribution to it becoming a standard, yeah that's cool of him.

it's rufus wainwright's verson in shrek, tho it's a str8 rip of cale's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLc2xox4G0E
I LEARNED ALL THE KOREAN AND EVERYTHING

cale in the movie, wainwright on the soundtrack CD, god help me for knowing that (xp)

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the first time i heard this MODERN AMERICAN SONGWRITING CLASSIC was in a movie where an ogre farts in a bog

I heard it on Yo MTV Raps back in 1993 iirc

lol some dude

i heard it on I'm Your Fan or one of those.

always thought it was weird that if u sample a session musician's riff or horns from a cover the writer of the bare bones tune gets the $. like bob dylan has a composer credit on beck's "jackass" because of the Them! riff from "it's all over now baby blue".

Forbes recently covered her Harry Potter Book of Mormon YouTube Parody Video

xpost yeah it cracks me up that this song went from being on cohen's sole non-major label album, to a cale tribute album, to an art film soundtrack to a kids' movie soundtrack, with a pit stop on Grace.

from an nyt article about alan light's book on hallelujah:

The album containing “Hallelujah” came out on an independent label in 1984, and then it languished. See Ms. Simmons’s account for an understanding of why, by 1991, the world was nonetheless ready for a Leonard Cohen tribute album: “I’m Your Fan,” put together by the French music magazine Les Inrockuptibles. This album prompted a major overhaul of “Hallelujah” by John Cale, once of the Velvet Underground, who re-edited the lyrics, coming up with a version that has proved more enduring than Mr. Cohen’s. Mr. Cale’s stark, exquisitely pure rendition, with an emphasis on the song’s eroticism, is by some lights (like this one) the best “Hallelujah” ever recorded.

A remarkable stroke of fate sent Jeff Buckley, then an aspiring young troubadour, to stay in a New York apartment that happened to contain a copy of “I’m Your Fan.” Buckley heard the song and, like many who have heard it, claimed he had no idea who had written it. But he included an intensely, beautifully ethereal version of it on his 1994 album, “Grace,” giving it a young man’s hypercharged sensibility rather than the Cohen-Cale seasoned one. When Buckley died young (as his doppelgänger father, the singer Tim Buckley, had), “Hallelujah” developed a cult following. “Leonard penned it, but Jeff owned it,” Mr. Light writes.

The song leapt another hurdle because Andrew Adamson, one of the directors of the 2001 animated classic “Shrek,” had heard the Cale version on a movie soundtrack (for the film “Basquiat”). There’s a point in “Shrek” when the big green guy is feeling lovelorn and alone, and “Hallelujah” was becoming a go-to song for accompanying sad moments. But “Shrek” was a DreamWorks film, and a DreamWorks recording artist was needed. Enter Rufus Wainwright, who sang a fine but snappier version than Cale’s and helped drum this song into the consciousness of a whole generation of young listeners and viewers.

this chick is Karmin in like three years, don't tell me i don't have a nose for truffles

I have no idea who wrote this song that appears on a Leonard Cohen tribute album

it's so cute when they want to sell their souls

always thought it was weird that if u sample a session musician's riff or horns from a cover the writer of the bare bones tune gets the $. like bob dylan has a composer credit on beck's "jackass" because of the Them! riff from "it's all over now baby blue".

― zvookster, Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:55 PM Bookmark

"Bittersweet Symphony" to thread

was that an andrew loog oldham thing? his only thing?

that was strange to hear about too, from what i read of oldham prior he didn't seem like a musician. but i read just now that he hired different session musicians and called them the andrew loog oldham orchestra, so yeah, i see, it was a riff by one of his hired guns.

Although the song's lyrics were written by Verve vocalist Richard Ashcroft, it has been credited to Keith Richards and Mick Jagger after charges by the original copyright owners that the song was plagiarized from the Andrew Oldham Orchestra recording of The Rolling Stones' 1965 song "The Last Time".

real cool hallelujah conversation itt, someone should write a book about it

also, does everyone have forks killfiled but me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVPTNhUErsw
hamroxurface

truth bombs

^^^

also, does everyone have forks killfiled but me?

― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what you think?

that in three years you'll be talking about a hot new song from pop sensation tessa netting featuring 2chainz

o is gr8080 itt? policing it i bet!!

tessa is worse than Amanda Palmer. Thanks forks.

zvookster i see what you did there

and i u man

Fellas. Fellas.

Has your girlfriend got the butt?

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2007. early or late for this soon to be ubiquitous internet meme of misattributed logos and photos?

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