Whammy bars

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I think they're cool as analogue pitch oscillators but for the last few years I've forced myself not to use one in an attempt to come up with different ways of getting a similar effect, like de-tuning the D string until it's completely slack and doing huge bends on it while the strings on either side are tuned normally, but what are yr thought on these objects?

dave q, Monday, 4 November 2002 09:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

Whammy bars are only cool if they are the Jaguar/Jazzmaster style "floating tremolo arm" model. I hate Bigsbys, and I hate those other spring contraptions that people insist on affixing to guitars.

Of course, when I switched to Danelectro, I had to leave the wonderment of the floating tremolo behind. No more floating tone bending which went up or down according to whim. But I've got a lot more into string bending recently. Using Super-Slinky strings and adjusting your action as low as possible leads to amazing possibilities for bending notes 2 or even 3 semitones up. Just wish you could bend notes down in the same fashion, the way my floating tremolo used to do.

kate, Monday, 4 November 2002 14:26 (twenty-two years ago) link

One thing I used to like doing was bending the bar all the way down then jamming it between the D and A strings, and just leaving it there while it attempting to play normally. Unfortunately one time I did this with a very expensive borrowed Ibanez Iceman and ripped the whole bridge out, and it was onstage in full view of everyone so it's not like I could just blame it on somebody else.

dave q, Monday, 4 November 2002 14:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

I love what whammy bars can do (especially for fully-voiced chords!), but I hate the fact that any tremolo bridge I can afford will lose it's tuning with every dive bomb.

So I got a whammy pedal. :D

Nickalicious, Monday, 4 November 2002 16:14 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ah, the floating tremolo never lost tuning. NEVER. Oh, I miss that guitar. I wonder what it would cost to get it shipped over...

kate, Monday, 4 November 2002 17:27 (twenty-two years ago) link

I hate whammy/tremolo bars typically. Kate is correct about the only cool ones being on Jazzmasters/Jaguars. Kevin Shields' use of the tremolo is still unsurpassed. Really, it was rather innovative the way he combined tremolo bar with alternately-tuned chords and reverse reverb/delay. Nobody since MBV Loveless has achieved such a beautiful distorted guitar tone in my opinion. So, I have to credit whammy bars with greatness.

Also, in Back to the Future, Marty McFly rocked out with the whammy bar (on an Ibanez methinks) in the talent show audition while he was wearing a vest. Classic.

wildcat wendell cooley, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 06:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
my fave wangerz

- Chris Salmon of Stump - his wangfunk frenzyon The Tube was inspirational

- Ritchie Blackmore...

adrian belew sux

a-33, Monday, 9 December 2002 21:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

a-33 - if you like Ritchie Blackmore (and I do), you'd LUV Uli Roth. Der maestro von twang-bar uber alles!

dave q, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 08:37 (twenty-two years ago) link

Uli is class - i saw him last year - with that MACKEM (boo!) from rainbow on keys - 'polar nights' WAS AWESOME.

a-33, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 22:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

Whammy bars + minor chords x reverb out the yin-yang = awesome surf-rock tone

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

two months pass...
I wish I had one

the pinefox, Thursday, 20 February 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago) link

two years pass...
I just found mine while packing up the house. Putting it aside for Chinese-made Strat torture.

kephm (kephm), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I have never owned a guitar with one! Not intentionally...

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 18 September 2005 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Floating tremola arm sounds so much MORE SEXY.

kephm (kephm), Monday, 19 September 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Steve Vai's Ibanez has the best whammy of them all. You can go up or down a full 5 steps and it will stay in tune due the huge cutout/spring on the back. That's why he uses it constantly! It's over $2,000 though and it's so obviously the Steve Vai guitar (monkeygrip, tree of life fretboard design) that it wouldn't be wise to step on stage with it. You're going to invite heckles regardless of what you play or how well.

Guitarzan, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

The new Ibanez S-Series "Zero Return" trem is amazing. Obviously not appropriate to all stage personas, but if you want stupid whammy tricks and ridiculous tuning stability, it's unbeatable.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link

hardly ever use my whammy bar, but i like the floating bridge on the strat for adding accents and shimmering textures to picked notes and chords.

the bridge on the jaguar sucks. i don know how anyone could ever use that without going wildly out of tune. one slip and youve knocked *everything* out. too fuckign dangerous!

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't see how anyone uses a locking tremolo for anything musical. I know it can be done, but I cannot figure how. I can see the Bigsby, as you can get those nice soft twang effects, but a Floyd Rose is something else.

I've never been able to figure out how Blackmore and J Mascis were able to hit those vintage style tremolos as hard as they did without knocking it out of whack. I know you can add a couple of extra springs on to the vintage tremolos which adds tuning stability, but both of those guys sometimes hammer them really hard, especially Blackmore on some of the live 70s Deep Purple recordings I have heard.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i lost mine within a week of buying my jag.

good riddance, i say.
how can you use one without sounding/looking really fucking 80s?

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link

The way Satriani and Vai have been using them lately, it sounds more like electronica, which is very current.

Guitarzan, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

The guitarist whose rock band I'm in is a very tasteful and unique whammy bar-ist. He's also the first guy I've heard use it really well in straight-ahead jazz.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link


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