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I not going to say it was "just updated" because i got in trouble for saying that last time, but there are new "coming soons" on the Criterion web page...

...including Godard's "A Woman is a Woman"!!!!!

now if only they'll do "Weekend"....

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago) link

I have been wishing for a Chris Marker set myself (i've seen very little of his stuff)

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago) link

i'm waiting patiently for the eisenstein silents set and a dvd of 'au hasard balthazar'

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

A Marker set would be incredible & would be a nice continuation of Criterion's embrace of experimental shorts, started with the "By Brakhage" collection.

I would love to see a collection of Jem Cohen's films released by Criterion, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 00:49 (twenty years ago) link

au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless.

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

I can't wait for the Battle of Algiers release that should be soon enough.

Once again, I refer you all to the wonderfully great Criterion messageboard of http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum/

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum

Try that...

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:49 (twenty years ago) link

its reached easier at http://www.criterionforum.org fyi

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks for the tip...that makes things so much eaiser.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

the problem with criterion is that i am always tempted to buy them even if i dont like or havent seen the movie because the packaging is so nice.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, but you really can't go wrong--nearly everything they release is golden.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

that reminds me, is The Leopard any good? because i have pre-ordered it already!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

<em>au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless. </em>

I just ordered my copy - $18. on DVD-R. Natch. - along with a copy of <em> F is for Fake </em> from
www.pimpadelicwonderland.com

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

Bad, bad HTML skills.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:49 (twenty years ago) link

The Leopard is amazing! Burt Lancaster's is one of the classic performance.s It is, however, very long and even more difficult to follow than The Big Sleep.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

watch "last year at marienbad" and nothing will be hard to follow afterwards... except for subsequent viewings of "last year at marienbad"

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 05:24 (twenty years ago) link

your em tags are just fine and would have worked up until a month or so ago when in the face of html abuse they also disabled any number of legitimate standards-compliant tags too.

andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

Au Hasard Balthazar will be out in Criterion before the year is out.

Weekend is owned by New Yorker films but no plans for a DVD have been made. It may come on Region 2 at some point.

Rashomon, Friday, 16 April 2004 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

I got the Floating Weeds DVDs today, yay.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, I bought that as well -- also grabbed 3 Women -- I can't wait to watch it!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Saturday, 17 April 2004 05:01 (twenty years ago) link

could someone explain to me why criterion collection dvds cost so much?! even the single discs can be 40 bucks. im missing something, i know it.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

Not many sold per title, lots of extras, costs of transfer and cleaning.

And because they can - they've got the name and the identity to hook in film geeks, where else are you going to turn, New Yorker?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:42 (twenty years ago) link

They're really not $40, that's just the MSRP. Most of them go for just a bit more than you'd probably want to pay for an average, if you know where to look. I highly recommend DVD Price Search - but if you want to take the short route, usually Deep Discount DVD tends to the have the best prices on Criterions (and free shipping to boot!).

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:22 (twenty years ago) link

Rumor at those Criterion forums, though, seems to indicate Criterion is gently phasing out their $29/$39 pricing patterns and easing into an appalling $39/$49 structure (which explains their rather excessive double-disc sets lately). If this turns out to be true, I'm afraid I'll have to put my foot down and refuse to buy more than one a month from these people.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 April 2004 06:31 (twenty years ago) link

alright alright. this ones a little harder:
why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:01 (twenty years ago) link

why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

I haven't seen it, but supposedly it was aimed at the special effects mavens out there. Also I recall reading an interview with one of the Criterion folks who said that the revenues from the Armageddon allowed them to fund a lot of other less-popular titles.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 03:51 (twenty years ago) link

balthazar getty needs some $$$$$$$ give it to him now luv me.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:23 (twenty years ago) link

There's a salon interview with Criterion's Peter Becker that directly addresses the Armageddon question. (Which 2 dvd set, by the way, I have and it's great. I love the movie though.)

Here's just the start of the relevant section:

Specifically, with "Armageddon": You'd be silly to overlook blockbusters as a genre and leave them out of a film library. They drive so much. They drive tastes and shooting styles and visual references that appear all over the world in commercials and on TV as well as on movie screens. They're part of a huge cultural cross-pollination. And special effects are one of the most important aspects of a certain kind of contemporary filmmaking.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

How true is that today? I can't think of the last Armageddon-esque blockbuster that visually influential on film/tv/commercials (incl. Armageddon).

Is The Rock Criterion still in print? I'd much rather have that than Armageddon.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago) link

The Rock criterion is still available. When I think of visually influential blockbusters (for good or ill), I have trouble getting past The Matrix. The interview is like 4 years old now, but he has more to say following that though. Part of me wishes the answer had simply been "just to piss you off" though.

Those were the days when you actually got your $140 million dollars worth out of your production budget.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

I forgot about the Matrix (and don't think of it as a blockbuster in the Independence Day mold, didn't it kind of come out of nowhere?), that would be one.

I miss the days when a budget topping $80mln was big news and a reason to go see the film. Now that barely buys you a romantic comedy.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

thats because the romantic sunsent that juxtaposes meg ryan's silhouette at the end has to be done in CGI by ILM.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:17 (twenty years ago) link

In regards to blockbuster films influencing TV commercial/music video styles (re: "Armaggedon"), I think in the majority of instances that it's the other way around. Michel Gondry and Chris Cunningham being a good example, and Mark Romanek's early NIN videos were a huge influence on David Fincher when he made "Seven". In my experience, true innovation usually comes from the avant-garde/indie/short format arenas, simply because it's easier to take risks on a short or cheap project than a studio produced narrative feature.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor).

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

personally i prefer dvds with a good transfer of the film and few if any bonus, presuming that this way they would be priced a bit lower. but criterion has a big network of fans who like exactly what they do, and purchase accordingly. there are a number of criterion titles i'd like to buy if i had the money, and should i ever have the money i will buy them. but for now i'll stick to the more inexpensive titles. sometimes the bfi in the uk or studiocanal in france will release the same titles for a cheaper sticker price, with fewer extras.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think I've watched the extras on 95% of the DVDs I own. A funny commentary here and there, but that's about it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

absolutely. the idea of extras is a lot more interesting than actually sitting through a thousand production photos. commentaries and perhaps documentaries are about the extent of my interest.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

"but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor). "

it depends on how you look at it. it my mind, there's no need for it to necessarily become somethi@5{te the suggestion that short films/music videos/avant-garde & experimental work are just a "warm-up" for a feature length narrative. it's kind of absurd to but a limitation of film that it has to be 90-180 minutes long with actors, dialogue & a plot. at least 50% of my favorite cinematic works don't fit into the categorization, and whenever i hear about people complaining about a lack of innovation in film, it's usually because all they watch are feature length narratives.

but as for the idea of the innovation in these works not "catching on" in the mainstream, you simply have to look around you to see their influence: magazines, billboards, popular films and music, even architecture. it's everywhere, and most of the good, innovative feature filmmakers will be the first to admit that they've been influenced by someone like michel gondry, spike jonze, jem cohen, etc.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

Battle of Algiers confirmed on the main page. Yay!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

And holy shit, three discs?!?!?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

haha, was just going to make a post about that on a separate thread but whatev.

two words: HOLY SHIT.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 23 April 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

Like I said... I'd expect these three-disc sets to become something of a norm. This is the third in the space of a half year, whereas the first roughly five years of Criterion DVDs brought only one (Brazil).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2004 23:57 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Slacker!

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

and Videdrome! It's good to see that Criterion has been adding more focus on contemporary works lately.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:20 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
can i just say that The Leopard is fucking awesome. thanks.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

newest ones include "eyes without a face"!

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago) link

(i'm happy to see more $29.95s in this latest batch, because they've been getting too rich for my blood. i'll definitely pick up "eyes" for that price, however, and probably "tanner '88".)

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:47 (twenty years ago) link

Is I, Vitelloni worth buying sight unseen? (For someone who luvs neo-realism and Dazed & Confused)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
short cuts two-disc set (with reprint of the carver book!) and the fanny and alexander two- AND five-disc sets coming out in november (like with scenes from a marriage, the television and theatrical versions are both getting a release).

so rejoice, damn you.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
burden of dreams, hoop dreams, the phantom of liberty set to come out in may.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Janus Contemporaries July: Anselm

two weeks pass...

AUGUST: Mother (A. Brooks)*; Real Life*; Not A Pretty Picture; Brief Encounters / The Long Farewell: Two Films by Kira Muratova; and a 4K of The Last Emperor.

*4K Available

one month passes...

SEPTEMBER: Happiness (Solondz); Gregg Araki’s Teen Apocalypse Trilogy; All of Us Strangers; an upgrade of The Long Good Friday; and a 4K of Repo Man.

All of this month's titles available on 4K.

On closer inspection, Totally F***Ed Up from the Araki set was only restored in 2K, so it doesn't appear in 4K in that version of the box.

In the 4K UHD edition: One 4K UHD disc of The Doom Generation and Nowhere and two Blu-rays with all three films and the special features

I stand extraordinarily corrected on Happiness. I assumed that would never see the light of day on physical media going forward.

Rich E. (Eric H.), Monday, 17 June 2024 19:13 (eight months ago) link

Besides the content, were there other hurdles to getting it released? I remember seeing it in theatres and yes it was a shocker, but more "vile" stuff comes out all the time imo

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 12:27 (eight months ago) link

so Nonesuch Records thought it was a good idea to do their own spin on the Criterion Closet because...

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 04:41 (seven months ago) link

I thought it was fun. I'm a big fan of the Amoeba What's In My Bag? clips.

a based robot like Bender (stevie), Wednesday, 26 June 2024 13:42 (seven months ago) link

Who was the first place to do these? My hunch is it wasn't Criterion

Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 June 2024 15:35 (seven months ago) link

record stores used to do these promos with radio stations where someone would get e.g. 97.9 seconds to grab whatever they could from the store, I think the promotional tactic goes back a ways

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 26 June 2024 15:41 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

OCTOBER: Gummo*; Demon Pond*; I Walked With A Zombie & The Seventh Victim double-feature*; and a Blu upgrade of Pandora's Box

*4K Available

two weeks pass...

Janus Contemporaries October: About Dry Grasses

I read rumors that they’re doing something with Twin Peaks. I wish it were so, the existing TP blu-rays are such bullshit.

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 31 July 2024 17:00 (six months ago) link

OCTOBER: Gummo*; Demon Pond*; I Walked With A Zombie & The Seventh Victim double-feature*; and a Blu upgrade of Pandora's Box

Delighted to hear about the Lewton films -- really the only thing I've been waiting for. My old Warner DVDs rotted.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 31 July 2024 17:15 (six months ago) link

CC40 "Greatest Hits" Blu Box In November: https://www.criterion.com/boxsets/7646-cc40

All previously released titles.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 August 2024 18:29 (six months ago) link

Thought that said CCR for a second there #onethread

Thrapple from the Apple (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 August 2024 20:29 (six months ago) link

ouch at that price. i'll stick with the channel.

master of the pan (abanana), Thursday, 8 August 2024 20:33 (six months ago) link

I’m hoping it’ll flood the market with used classic titles but I suppose the folks buying it will put it on the collector shelf

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 8 August 2024 21:17 (six months ago) link

ouch at that price. i'll stick with the channel.

Nobody is paying $800 for it except maybe libraries and extreme gotta haveits.

$400 from B&N or during a flash sale is how 99% of these will find homes.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 August 2024 22:58 (six months ago) link

i doubt there are any criterion fans who don't already have a few of those, making it even less value for money

koogs, Friday, 9 August 2024 07:23 (six months ago) link

(7 for me)

koogs, Friday, 9 August 2024 07:25 (six months ago) link

Per criterionforum.org:

Funny Girl
Paper Moon
Scarface (1931 w/ Paul Muni)
Seven Samurai
The Shape of Water
The CC40 box set
Godzilla UHD

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 15 August 2024 16:33 (six months ago) link

I did not know Black God White Devil could look that good:

https://criterionforum.org/Review/black-god-white-devil-the-criterion-collection-blu-ray

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 August 2024 17:23 (five months ago) link

Janus Contemporaries November: Ryuichi Sakamoto | Opus

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 20:17 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

DECEMBER: No Country For Old Men*; Eastern Condors; and 4K upgrades of 8 1/2 & Paris, Texas.

*4K available

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 September 2024 19:21 (five months ago) link

Wasn’t Paris Texas already available? I assumed this would be a 4k issue.

O 'Tis Redding (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 16 September 2024 19:40 (five months ago) link

It's a 4K upgrade.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 September 2024 22:06 (five months ago) link

four weeks pass...

JANUARY: Winchester '73; The Grifters; Jo Jo Dancer, Your Life Is Calling; The Mother and The Whore; and a 4K Upgrade of the Yojimbo/Sanjuro set.

All January Titles are also available on 4K.

Also: The Mother... release <does not> contain any of Eustache's other films.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 16:27 (four months ago) link

Well all those people who complained for years about Eustache not being available in Region 1 needed something else to complain about?

I'm not completely joking....

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 17:38 (four months ago) link

I see you've been lurking in the Criterion forum too!

I'm figuring they decided a full set wasn't feasible due to $$$ list price, and that they could bundle all the shorts as a second disc to an edition of The Little Loves, which itself is pretty obscure and could use the boost if sold separately from TMATW.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 19:41 (four months ago) link

I imagine there's going to be a ton of issues from now on since it looks like every new mainline title is getting a 4K edition, which of course limits what <they can> release.

One of the umpteen things that held back the Eustache releases were that the original 00s restorations were done in standard-def literally right before the HD-Blu wars and 1080p becoming the new industry standard.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 19:51 (four months ago) link

Another issue is that most of Eustache's short films aren't really that short, with a number of them clocking in at around 50 minutes (or more) apiece, and that his other feature, the documentary Numero zero weighs in at just under 2 hours.

Putting everything together would have resulted in perhaps a $100 MSRP 4K set, so this was purely a cost thing.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 21:14 (four months ago) link

I thought the real problem was the two versions of "Une Sale Histoire"

Litso Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 October 2024 15:42 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

FEBRUARY: Performance*; Drugstore Cowboy*; Crossing Delancey*; King Lear (Godard); and 4K upgrades of Cronos and Punch-Drunk Love.

*4K Available

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 November 2024 17:51 (three months ago) link

king lear is the cannon films one, right? how many cannon releases are in the collection?

master of the pan (abanana), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 00:41 (three months ago) link

Checking wiki, it looks like just their two Casavettes titles (Love Streams and the I'm Almost Not Crazy doc), and if you expand the net to include adjacent stuff via sister companies and/or distribution pickups there's Thelma & Louise, The Comfort of Strangers, and Sex, Lies and Videotape.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 November 2024 18:55 (three months ago) link

Janus Contemporaries February: Last Summer (Breillat)

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 November 2024 20:17 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

MARCH: Night Moves (Penn, 1975)*; Choose Me*; A Woman of Paris; Godzilla vs. Biollante*; and 4K upgrades of Thief & The Wages of Fear

*4K Available

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 December 2024 16:48 (two months ago) link

There's a new audio commentary on Night Moves. I wonder how many other new ones they've done in the past 4 or 5 years aside from the Underground Railroad set. I felt like they didn't think it was worth the time and effort for a while but now with the rise of all these new boutique blu ray brands who tend to splash out for commentaries etc if they're feeling the need to compete.

Gukbe, Friday, 13 December 2024 16:53 (two months ago) link

Love the new Wages of Fear cover.

WmC, Friday, 13 December 2024 17:51 (two months ago) link

I just saw the new restoration in the theater last week, after not having seen it for years. Truly awesome.

Sir Lester Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 December 2024 18:21 (two months ago) link

At which screening they also played a trailer for THE UMBRELLAS OF CHERBOURG, which had a pull-quote from a guy named Bill Weber. I went to see that on Thursday, another great experience.

Sir Lester Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 December 2024 18:23 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Annual Day of Missing Jason Polan & His New Year's Drawings

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 17:45 (one month ago) link

APRIL: Prince of Broadway; Basquiat*; Anora*; Jean de Florette / Manon of the Spring: Two Films by Claude Berri*; and 4K upgrades of Chungking Express; Some Like It Hot; and Ugetsu

*4K available

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 January 2025 17:34 (one month ago) link

I'm glad they're putting out 4Ks, but budget reasons keep me sticking with BDs most of the time.

I think we're all Bezos on this bus (WmC), Wednesday, 15 January 2025 17:40 (one month ago) link

Now that I own a 4K player (well, a ps5) I can more confidently say the upgrade from regular blu ain't that amazing.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 16 January 2025 09:29 (one month ago) link

I think it depends on the movie (and your TV I guess). I've watched a couple of 4Ks (not Criterion though) on a 65" oled and while the 4K resolution itself probably makes a marginal at best difference, the dynamic range of the colours can be amazing.

silverfish, Thursday, 16 January 2025 15:39 (one month ago) link

I'm not going 4K anytime soon (or maybe ever), but during the last B&N sale I picked up the dual-format Paper Moon because the packaging is so lovely & clever.

https://www.criterionforum.org/Packaging/paper-moon-the-criterion-collection-4k-uhd-plus-blu-ray

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 January 2025 21:22 (one month ago) link

four weeks pass...

MAY: Killer of Sheep (plus A Walk with Charles Burnett (2019), a documentary by Robert Townsend)*; The Three/Four Musketeers (Lester)*; The Wind Will Carry Us*; a Blu upgrade of How To Get Ahead In Advertising; and 4K Upgrades of The Umbrellas of Cherbourg; Withnail & I; and In The Heat Of The Night.

*4K Available

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 February 2025 18:23 (one week ago) link

Janus Contemporaries May: Room 666/Room 999

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 February 2025 17:12 (yesterday) link


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