8/9, struggled even with the Tigers/Braves
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 7 July 2023 07:12 (ten months ago) link
Yeah 8/9 for me too but a different one I thinkhttps://i.postimg.cc/Z5VjSyh2/IMG-4668.jpgI watched a LOT of bad baseball this year for this one.
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Friday, 7 July 2023 08:34 (ten months ago) link
for the Barves answers i really knocked the rarity numbers out of the park: Darrel Evans, 1%; Ron Gant, 2%; Gary Sheffield 3%
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 July 2023 14:01 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, you should include your rarest answers along with your score; mine were Eddie Matthews for the Braves/Tigers and Joe Torre for the Braves/Cardinals, both 2%.
― clemenza, Friday, 7 July 2023 14:20 (ten months ago) link
8/9, I got tripped up by the Tigers/Rockies square (as did most people).
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 7 July 2023 14:29 (ten months ago) link
killed the braves column: mike hessman (det), ken oberkfell (stl), claudell washington (nyy) all 0.2%
but i had no col/det and i tried to get too fancy with the 40+ homers
― mookieproof, Friday, 7 July 2023 16:48 (ten months ago) link
Yeah if it helped I put Goldie for the middle right one and in retrospect, why
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Friday, 7 July 2023 16:56 (ten months ago) link
So is the rarity score actually one of the objectives? I haven't been playing that way, but I will if it is.
― clemenza, Friday, 7 July 2023 17:20 (ten months ago) link
i would guess that most people playing the game can probably answer most of the questions (rockies/tigers aside), so yeah rarity is a thing. which is nice for you, as i bet you'll totally kick ass at it
― mookieproof, Friday, 7 July 2023 20:18 (ten months ago) link
Just a function of being older. When I answered Joe Torre for the Braves/Cardinals, that for me is an obvious answer: perennial All-Star with the Braves, an MVP with the Cardinals. But he was 2% of the correct answers. I'll still struggle with the intersecting teams--and will usually be happy if I can come up with even one answer--but I will go for more offbeat stat/award answers.
― clemenza, Friday, 7 July 2023 22:21 (ten months ago) link
9/9, really concentrated on less obvious answers: all but one under 10%, six 5% or under, three under 1%. The one name that escaped me was J.A. Happ for the Jays 20-game winner, so I settled for Morris--who surprisingly was only 3% anyway.
Rarity Score: 62.
― clemenza, Saturday, 8 July 2023 06:30 (ten months ago) link
If they added a time component to this, I'd be dead.
― clemenza, Saturday, 8 July 2023 06:48 (ten months ago) link
8/9.Could not FOR THE LIFE OF ME name a single A/Pirate, the only reason I got the reliever is cos I read about him being picked up by the Pirates off waivers.https://i.postimg.cc/63hPG7Ct/IMG-4734.jpgSorry for letting you down with my lack of Pirates knowledge, Mookieproof.
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Saturday, 8 July 2023 09:17 (ten months ago) link
What’s funny is your top right answer could have been used for the one you didn’t get!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 July 2023 14:48 (ten months ago) link
That's who I used for my top left (I was pretty sure but not 100%). Could have used Jeff Kent twice too, if you were allowed to. I actually found Cy Young/MVP a little tricky since double-winners have been somewhat arbitrary. Best example: Rice beat out Guidry in '78, but Clemens beat out Mattingly in '86. I thought that's what happened, but again, wasn't 100% sure, so I went with a safe 36% choice there.
― clemenza, Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:01 (ten months ago) link
xp I didn’t know that until you said so, I had two answers for that top right square and Cutch was a more obvious choice
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:05 (ten months ago) link
Let me know what your Jays answers were, Thermo. I had (working down) Al Oliver, Candy Maldonado--both under 1%--and Morris at 36%.
― clemenza, Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:18 (ten months ago) link
Those are all solid 80s answers!
I had Liriano, Pillar & Clemens (6%, 10% & 21%)
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 July 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link
Unfortunately I chose the most obvious answers Jose Bautista, Brandon Belt, Roy Haaladay. I have plenty of room for improvement in this game.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 8 July 2023 17:32 (ten months ago) link
I came up with what might be the only Immaculate Grid with the same answer for all nine squares (if you include a major award and a major statistical benchmark--there are guys who've played for nine teams, so that would be the other way to go). This is extremely easy.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ib_kzXqxUdy4qWeNf2c_Q72Ka0UHxIZXq1d9ufTfll8/edit?usp=sharing
― clemenza, Saturday, 8 July 2023 17:40 (ten months ago) link
8/9, couldn't start to think of a Pirates/Jays crossover. Rarity score:304
Jason Kendall - Ray Knight - Barry BondsBarry Zito - Brandon Belt - WillieBob Welch - Roy Halladay - Sandy Koufax
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 8 July 2023 21:26 (ten months ago) link
Ray Knight was supposed to be Gary Carter - 'long career, played in Canada, might have made a pit stop in Pittsburgh?' - and still wrong
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 8 July 2023 21:28 (ten months ago) link
I had Bob Welch for his 27 win season my first year playing rotisserie baseball, age 9 - also Bobby Thigpen & Cecil Fielder... my roto talent scout career was all downhill from there
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 8 July 2023 21:30 (ten months ago) link
We don't need to get into specifics, but not good at all today. (I did figure out that you can think in terms of franchises, so I was able to use the Expos in place of the Nationals.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 9 July 2023 05:07 (ten months ago) link
4/9 - Chris Young for Rangers X Padres and Johnny Damon/Julio Franco/Paul Molitor for SB
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 9 July 2023 06:58 (ten months ago) link
The highlight for me was using two Seattle Pilots for Brewers answers.
― clemenza, Sunday, 9 July 2023 07:21 (ten months ago) link
5/9, nothing doing down the left side at all.https://i.postimg.cc/v8Lr1JgG/IMG-4800.jpg
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Sunday, 9 July 2023 08:43 (ten months ago) link
I can’t believe I fucked up the KC sb one. A solid decade of speedy players and I pick one who never broke 30 with them. Also lol at me forgetting the obvious answers to SD & Tex/Mil and landing guys with 2% rarity
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 9 July 2023 15:17 (ten months ago) link
Here's your cheat sheet if you ever want to check yourself after the fact:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/multifranchise.cgi
― clemenza, Sunday, 9 July 2023 15:30 (ten months ago) link
Another single-answer grid, marginally tougher than the first one I posted (had to cut some slack on the statistical benchmark):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kOwakO07O_liYBPBCYHoDJuvEFKz-Zrs0lQnbjjhM98/edit?usp=sharing
― clemenza, Sunday, 9 July 2023 16:06 (ten months ago) link
8/9, Bert Blyleven never won a Cy
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 10 July 2023 04:34 (ten months ago) link
8/9...Flubbed my first Cubs/Red Sox guess (Josh Beckett), tried a second correct one, so never got to Cubs/Guardians. Rarity score 197: seven correct answers 1-10%, settled for the easy Twins/Red Sox answer. I almost boxed myself in with Rick Sutcliffe as the Cubs Cy Young winner--I should have used him for the Cubs/Guardians box. So there is some strategy involved.
― clemenza, Monday, 10 July 2023 04:54 (ten months ago) link
No idea how, but the only Cleveland/Cubs guy I could think of was Jody Gerut. And today I learned that Cy Young, the man they named THE pitching award after, never got to 3,000 Ks!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 10 July 2023 05:31 (ten months ago) link
8/9 not my best effort due toGuardians.https://i.postimg.cc/VvQzPjsx/IMG-4882.jpg
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Monday, 10 July 2023 08:49 (ten months ago) link
I tried to get clever with my first guess by guessing Lefty Grove for the Boston pitcher with 3000 K's. Oh well. Craig Kimbrel - x - Rick SutcliffeDavid Ortiz - x - Frank ViolaRoger Clemens - Bert Blyleven - Pedro Martinez
When I'm stumped I guess Edwin Jackson or Octavio Dotel or one of those other handful of guys who played for 12+ teams. I haven't been right once!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 10 July 2023 09:28 (ten months ago) link
gyac, your baseball knowledge is pretty impressive for someone who only recently got into the game. It's miles better than mine (I would never call myself a massive fan).
I got 7/9, my best showing yet. I'm much better at the stat categories than the team x team categories. Bill Buckner, Phil Niekro, and Tom Seaver were my best answers.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 10 July 2023 12:19 (ten months ago) link
I whiffed on Bob Feller having 3000 Ks.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 10 July 2023 12:20 (ten months ago) link
i fuckin did it. i will never do this again. boston in there was the only way i had a chance. rarity score 238
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 July 2023 12:58 (ten months ago) link
yeah i guessed warren spahn for cy young/3000 ks, turns out world war ii put a dent in a lot of counting stats from that era
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 July 2023 13:36 (ten months ago) link
My problem with this game--the game is great; I literally mean my problem--is my fading memory for names. The other day, I couldn't remember A.J. Happ, who goes back all of six or seven years with the Jays. I couldn't remember Ian Kinsler's name one day. ("Tampa Bay, the super-utility player, impressive WARs...") And this had to do with something else, not the grid, but I couldn't remember Jose Reyes's name. This is a guy with over 2000 hits, Hall of the Good, came to the Jays with a lot of fanfare, had a polarizing three seasons here (unfairly--when a team's going nowhere, your best players get them blame), hard player to forget. I remember him well. Just couldn't come up with a name.
― clemenza, Monday, 10 July 2023 13:39 (ten months ago) link
Best thing on today's was having both Gaylord and Jim Perry on the same grid.
― clemenza, Monday, 10 July 2023 13:45 (ten months ago) link
I'm mixing up Ian Kinsler with Ben Zobrist--it was Zobrist I couldn't remember. I can't even remember who I can't remember.
― clemenza, Monday, 10 July 2023 13:47 (ten months ago) link
Ty PBKR! Speaking of Edwin Jackson, I saw this grid and need to try it.
While doing your immaculate grid here's a grid you could try, The Edwin Jackson gridIn his career Edwin Jackson played for 14 Teams while making an All star game and a WS which are all in this grid This works like a normal grid but the only rule is you can't use Edwin Jackson pic.twitter.com/Na3c8czBDV— Griff (@Jram2TBJ) July 6, 2023
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Monday, 10 July 2023 15:38 (ten months ago) link
I don't think there's a Cy Young or MVP box I'll ever miss; haven't encountered ROY yet, but I'd be easy to stump there. Outside of the occasional Fred Lynn or Albert Pujols, I forget half of them within a year.
I made up a managers Immaculate Grid:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wFtj-9oT4CYnBL05gZFyYVqd3pTKCclraQ_g9GH4L60/edit?usp=sharing
Most of it is easy, but one box might be very difficult.
― clemenza, Monday, 10 July 2023 20:13 (ten months ago) link
7/9. I'm a washout when it comes to the Rays, Rockies, Marlins, and D-Backs--except for a few big stars, I know nothing about those teams. Picked three All-Stars who together added up to less than 1%: Frank Tanana, Mark Belanger, and Ralph Garr. Thrill of the day: Bo Belinsky for Angels/Reds, which I only knew because I just finished the Belinsky chapter in the Pat Jordan book--I think he pitched about three innings for the Reds in his final season.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 04:50 (ten months ago) link
One of my incorrect guesses was Lyman Bostock for the Angels' All-Star. He should have been on both the '76 and '77 teams--hitting .330 at the break both years. Wouldn't have helped me anyway: he was still on the Twins.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 04:56 (ten months ago) link
Miserable 6/9.https://i.postimg.cc/xTzqhMVR/IMG-4909.jpg- thought Tim Salmon would have been an All Star - no- Derek Lowe was an AS but not for the Braves, but previously the game hasn’t enforced it like that? Anyway I wasted two guesses going “Sorry, what?” cos I was sure I’d selected the wrong Lowe or something.- 90% of Orioles players I’m aware of are ex Giants, Kevin Gausman, and the current children of the corn roster. -Shoutout to Brooks Conrad who gets mentioned in every writeup of the 2010 Giants postseason. I wondered if they traded him immediately after, they didn’t, but when they did they traded him to Tampa.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Kr8Gky4Js
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 08:33 (ten months ago) link
6/9, which is not bad for me. Hit pay dirt with Norm Charlton (0.3%) for CIN/ATL, and Roberto Alomar (0.3%) for BAL All-Star.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 11:45 (ten months ago) link
Now part of B-R!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 15:43 (ten months ago) link
they moved on that pretty fast!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link
9/9, 60. I was good through the first four, then Renteria, then Welch, then I just gave up and went for the 9.
https://i.postimg.cc/YSyBHgMk/grid.jpg
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 May 2024 14:19 (two weeks ago) link
Neither snow nor rain...9/9, 15. Could've used Stairs for the Perry box too, which has led me to the Kurt Bevacqua Rule: not Montreal, but the other three '69 teams. Took a guess on U.L. Washington, who I figured must have spelled off Brett occasionally. He did--exactly once. (Didn't he always have a toothpick in his mouth?)
https://i.postimg.cc/G3BMggW1/grid.jpg
― clemenza, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 11:57 (one week ago) link
Yes, he did (the toothpick). And he was on first when Brett hit the pine tar HR.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 11:59 (one week ago) link
Periodically returned to this through the day, knowing full well I had nothing for Arizona.
https://i.postimg.cc/sDxQxqVK/grid.jpg
Was pretty good through the first seven, with an auto-fill-assisted guess on Miguel Dilone. I remembered Mark Reynolds from yesterday's strikeouts/power discussion. But the famous-again Ron Leflore still had me over 30%, so I threw in the towel with Schilling and Carroll. Tony Womack crossed my mind at one point, but forgot him by the time I finished.
So one of those grids: 9/9, 112.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:01 (one week ago) link
Colourful curse words: 8/9, 106:
https://i.postimg.cc/8CNd9Xjq/grid.jpg
People I thought of for lifetime White Sox box: Minnie Minoso, Eddie Cicotte, Richard Dotson, Jason Bere, Al Lopez, none of whom would have been right--Al Lopez didn't even play for the Chicago (but managed them for 12 years). Who I guessed: Chico Carrasquel, who was there six out of 10 seasons. Who I should have guessed: Luke Appling or Red Faber. Who I could have guessed if I paid a lot more attention to Jays' games: Nick Nastrini, who's had three lifetime starts for the White Sox and got hammered by Toronto the other night.
― clemenza, Friday, 24 May 2024 14:41 (one week ago) link
Old Nick would have been 0.9%.
― clemenza, Friday, 24 May 2024 14:47 (one week ago) link
I don’t understand what’s going on with the no hitter cat. It’s paired with three different teams and the rules say that the no hitter has to happen with that team… when I was done (7/9) the number stated in the results screen was just over 2x the number that the bb ref page is giving me.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 26 May 2024 17:08 (one week ago) link
Not sure what you mean by "the number"...I had two days in a row where one box kept me from scoring under 10%, then today was a wipeout.
― clemenza, Sunday, 26 May 2024 17:48 (one week ago) link
Number = number of guys who pitched a no-hitter for that team? (It is team-specific, you're right.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 26 May 2024 17:49 (one week ago) link
Ya. That number.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 26 May 2024 19:00 (one week ago) link
It was higher than the actual amount should have been in the summary.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 26 May 2024 19:01 (one week ago) link
I think I figured out what was happening. The grid summary includes everyone ever involved with a no hitter - but when you click through to the BBref page, it only lists the guys who threw full games.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 May 2024 02:22 (six days ago) link
That'd be it, yeah. I'm not good on no-hitters. The ones I remember tend to be the famous ones--when I re-tried today's on a different browser, I typed in Dock Ellis for the Pirates--56%!.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 May 2024 03:40 (six days ago) link
9/9, 15.
https://i.postimg.cc/J4J9hYzC/grid.jpg
That's about the best I can do with Silver Slugger on there--don't think I could have got it under 10.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 May 2024 13:57 (six days ago) link
I mean, I'm surprised Dave Stapleton isn't under 0.1%--he'll definitely be my pick next time one-team-only turns up for the Red Sox.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 May 2024 13:59 (six days ago) link
Did this this morning but had to head out for the day--9/9, 9. Twice I got some auto-fill help: 1) couldn't remember Shin-Soo Choo's name, just the bizarre play in 2015 right before the bat flip. Tried three or four different things till I was fairly confident I had the right guy; 2) I knew who I wanted there, but when I started to type in Rick Helling for the Rangers' 10-game winner, Rick Honeycutt popped up at the top of the list. Figured he was an even better bet for a low rarity, so I went with him--a little cheap, I'll concede. (More likely, they're both about the same for rarity.)
https://i.postimg.cc/tgPY7npj/grid.jpg
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:02 (five days ago) link
Science fiction: in '83, Honeycutt's 2.42 led the A.L. in ERA; he struck out 56 batters in 175 IP. (His FIP was 3.52.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:10 (five days ago) link
9/9, 59. Easy day for a 9, but a low rarity requires threading the needle on those first two columns--probably Zito for A's Cy Young, and Jon Lester for their 2000 K.
https://i.postimg.cc/VvjtCT94/grid.jpg
― clemenza, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 10:57 (four days ago) link
I would like to register my vehement disagreement with R.A. Dickey not being 6.0 WAR the year he won the Cy Young (5.7).
― clemenza, Thursday, 30 May 2024 18:57 (three days ago) link
As well as I can do with GG involved--9/9, 30. I thought Brett would do better, reasoning that people would use him for the middle column; we read left to right, so maybe if the columns had been reversed. Ray Burris immediately popped into my head this morning--no idea why.
https://i.postimg.cc/rpB0HfTQ/grid.jpg
― clemenza, Friday, 31 May 2024 20:49 (two days ago) link
8/9, 105. Second or third Saturday in a row I've flubbed an easy one (today's was pretty much all my strongest categories)--forgot how often Yastrzemski walked; never more than 191 hits, not even in '67 or '70. Just barely over 2% for seven of these.
https://i.postimg.cc/Kj9200dQ/grid.jpg
― clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2024 12:50 (yesterday) link
Ah! I managed to best you today! 8/9 104. Came to post this one because, assuming I got under 5% with that last answer, it would have been my personal best score without that wrong guess.
https://postimg.cc/fkGjcrMFI thought for sure Steve Garvey had over 300 HRs (to go with 200 hit season), but he fell short by like 28, the fucking bum!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:23 (yesterday) link
I get caught on that kind of stuff all the time. Garvey's solid on 200 hits and 100 RBIs at the seasonal level.
― clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:26 (yesterday) link
Harry Heilmann fan club in session.
― clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:28 (yesterday) link
THE MAN WAS A GOLDEN GOD!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:47 (yesterday) link